UAF; now we know the truth.
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Martial Arts Man

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6,664 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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In light of the protests outside the BBC today, with members of the police being injured, I feel the following point is worthy of a thread of its own.

In the past, this UAF rent-a-mob have screamed from the rooftops that any violence that they get themselves mixed up is down to the "fascists/racists/etc" that they are protesting against.

"It's not us that started it; it was them!"

Unfortunately, for the UAF, there don't appear to be any other groups present at the BBC today.

There is violence, however.

My question is: will enough pressure now be applied that the UAF face some sort of investigation as a result of all this? I'd love to know exactly where their funding comes from and any alleged links to our lovely government exposed.

Surely they are now a little too out of control for these incidents to keep on happening?

What is the end point of all this? It wouldn't surprise me if we end up with more restrictions on ALL demonstrations as a result.

If we could keep this one on topic, without debating the BNP etc (that has a million threads running right now), I think it would be sensible.

6655321

73,668 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Spot on... All the hand wringers happy to either ignore, or be ignorant of these people, listen up. The irony, again, of anti-fascists arguing against free speech cannot be ignored. Bloody hypocrites.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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The UAF worry me far more than the BNP.

The BNP are a reactionary fringe group who seek to gain power through our democtratic process but who will always appeal to only a tiny proportion of the electorate.

The UAF are the fascist brown shirt division of new labour and seek to deny those who do take part in the democratic process, however unsavoury they may be, their voice because the UAF's political masters tell them to and they do it through force, bullying and violence.

TheD

3,141 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I agree with all the posts. It is almost as if they are organised to demonstrate against organisations that want the freedom of speech and demonstration. Hypocritical isn't a strong enough word for these people and they definitely have strings pulled. It truly is a worry.

Somewhatfoolish

4,914 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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2nded. If we had a proper organisation against facists I'd probably have gone to the demo; I like a good riot and hate the BNP. But the UAF are fking commies... they're not against facism so much as pro socialism, and I can't be supporting that.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

254 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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They are true morons, did you see that student type who had just been ejected saying rough quote "I was just exercising my democratic right to protest".

So he can invade private property and stop somebody speaking who has been elected democratically? Why are they so upset about the BNP talking? Before the euro elections I took the time to click through their manifesto and what a load of b0llocks.

The real purpose of the UAF? I guess nulabor are running scared that the BNP may take some votes off them in some seats resulting in a labour loss to either the Cons or Libs.

Guy Torf Myland

853 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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As above, I'd love to know where the UAF are getting funding from- it can't all be from the SWP as I'd strongly suspect their dole cheques don't amount to all that much.

In today's Guardian Inayat Bungawotsit had a comment piece rousing moderate Muslims to march against a Jihadi demonstration outside Parliament on- I think- Oct 31st. This is going to be a lot of fun when EDL and the BNP turn up to protest aginst the Jihadis, presumably siding with the moderate muslims, and the UAF turn up to demonstrate against the BNP and EDL.
Confusing but no doubt lots of fun.

BNP - elected tossers, who'd cause misery for millions given half a chance.
UAF - unelected tossers, who'd cause misery for millions given half a chance.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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shoot the soap dodging tossers.

playerone

872 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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It doesnt take Sherlock Holmes..

on the UAF website the email addresses end in ucu.org.uk who are a union. Who is the party that has union support....