Button to Mclaren??
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Tarmac Terror

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238 months

Muzzer

3,814 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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It wouldn't surprise me at all. I still think that Kimi would be a better team-mate to Lewis as they both like a pointy car. But Jenson would be less likely to disrupt the team dynamics in a way that Kimi might.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Muzzer said:
Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....
I think it would be a great move. Two different driving styles and i think the sponsors would find them very marketable. What sour-face Kimi from Finland could possibly be bringing to Mclaren in terms of sponsors & marketing is beyond me.

Go for Jenson Martin - You know it makes sense.

exitwound

1,093 posts

209 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Muzzer said:
Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....
Vodafone are calling the shots, so they would love to have two WDC's in 2010. What a coup for them eh?

Keith R

115 posts

264 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Daily Mail???? Take with a huge pinch of salt.

Reality aside, what an awesome combo that would be though! And very marketable I would imagine; two british world champions in a british team. It would also put an end to this Button v Hamilton debate.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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exitwound said:
Muzzer said:
Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....
Vodafone are calling the shots, so they would love to have two WDC's in 2010. What a coup for them eh?
What about Kimi and Lewis?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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exitwound said:
Vodafone are calling the shots, so they would love to have two WDC's in 2010. What a coup for them eh?
Don't be silly. McLaren choose who they want to drive. If that choice of driver makes the marketing life of a sponsor a little easier, than great. McLaren don't need or ask for pay drivers and have the luxury of going for whovever they think will do the best job.

TheArchitect

1,238 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I couldn't see it working personally for the reasons said, two drivers with similar driving styles is better imo. I wold love to see an all English Mclaren team but I think it'll not work, and I dought it'll get beyond rumour.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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elster said:
exitwound said:
Muzzer said:
Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....
Vodafone are calling the shots, so they would love to have two WDC's in 2010. What a coup for them eh?
What about Kimi and Lewis?
Forget Kimi - he is looking for a fat pay check that he does not deserve. Apparently asked Toyota for 20Million Euros when Jenson wants 8Million from Brawn. Is Kimi worth 12 Million more than Jenson? No chance.

Muzzer

3,814 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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exitwound said:
Muzzer said:
Saw that on the Wail website.

Can't see it personally - two drivers of the same nationality in one team? Not good for marketing.....
Vodafone are calling the shots, so they would love to have two WDC's in 2010. What a coup for them eh?
Vodafone are stumping up the money but they're not hiring drivers - this isn't Toro Rosso you know...

Besides, I'm surprised you haven't rubbished this totally if your recent comments about Button are anything to go by:

exitwound said:
Next year if he gets a drive, will see him at the back of the grid where he's more at home

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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See what he's really made of hehe, Hamilton would kick his ass imho.

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I'd quite like to see it but to be honest i'd be surprised if it did.

I remember an interview with Christian Horner who said that development of the Redbull was helped by the fact that Vettel and Webber have similar driving styles. And look what a force to be reconed with the Redbull car has become during the season.

Ideally, with the car setup being so critical, I think you need two similar drivers so it's only setup variations that are needed rather than two almost completely different cars.

Keith R

115 posts

264 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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TheArchitect said:
I couldn't see it working personally for the reasons said, two drivers with similar driving styles is better imo. I wold love to see an all English Mclaren team but I think it'll not work, and I dought it'll get beyond rumour.
Why is the fact they have different driving styles an issue?

paulrockliffe

16,566 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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From a manufacturers point of view is there not some merit to having two drivers of different styles? If done correctly will one not pick up points at the tracks where the other's style doesn't suit and vice-versa? Are Mclaren mroe interested in the constructors title or the drivers championship?

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I think this could even be on. What with the Crap JB (and the rest of the team) are going to go through in next few weeks at Brawn on pay. I see him in another team (and there aren't many) unless he want to really drive for (comparitive!) Peanuts.

LH is a very different type of driver and bothe get the job done. There setup would be miles different - could the team build car identical cars and then go radically different ways on setup for Mr Ballsy to the Wall, and MR Smooth.

I recon it would be great and JB would not get stuffed - I think it would be very close (ala when FA was there).

Unfortunately I see JB having to stay put and KR getting the other seat (as long as Kov is told to piss right off).

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Brawn is his team, he will be the lead driver next year, he is not going anywhere.

He has also said it on numerous occasions he wants to stay, and team want him to stay.

I am more worried about the engineers! They want bonuses, otherwise that team will fall apart.


Muzzer

3,814 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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In a way I can see Button being up for it - Not only for the money but because he's said he wants to be in a winning car and chances are McLaren will have a winning car.

But I just can't see McLaren having 2 British drivers and Jenson joining Vodafone-Lewis-Mercedes... wink

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Keith R said:
TheArchitect said:
I couldn't see it working personally for the reasons said, two drivers with similar driving styles is better imo. I wold love to see an all English Mclaren team but I think it'll not work, and I dought it'll get beyond rumour.
Why is the fact they have different driving styles an issue?
Because they need different things from the car. Button drives with a very neutral car. Hamilton drives (mostly, Singapore this year being one notable exception) with a car that tends to oversteer. These are things that can be plotted into a cars suspension geometry and figures in the very early stages of design. It would also mean that they would be developing the cars on different paths in testing and the practice sessions. This is especially difficult when only one car is allowed to do track testing at any one time. It effectively halves the amount of time that the team has.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Mini1275 said:
See what he's really made of hehe, Hamilton would kick his ass imho.
Yeah, but only when he doesn't put it in the kitty litter unassisted ... biggrin