Videoing track days?
Videoing track days?
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kryten22uk

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2,350 posts

255 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I've watched a few of the Youtube track day videos, and was wondering how they're achieved practically.

I assume that you're not allowed for a passenger to simply hold a videocam, and hence its probably attached to the car some way.

So how are the vidcams usually attached internally?
And how does it not just come out utterly juddery?

tertius

6,914 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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kryten22uk said:
I've watched a few of the Youtube track day videos, and was wondering how they're achieved practically.

I assume that you're not allowed for a passenger to simply hold a videocam, and hence its probably attached to the car some way.

So how are the vidcams usually attached internally?
And how does it not just come out utterly juddery?
You need a decent camera mount. I use a Manfrotto superclamp attached to the harness bar. Camera is just a basic Canon Ixus.

http://www.vimeo.com/6977623

don4l

10,058 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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kryten22uk said:
I've watched a few of the Youtube track day videos, and was wondering how they're achieved practically.

I assume that you're not allowed for a passenger to simply hold a videocam, and hence its probably attached to the car some way.

So how are the vidcams usually attached internally?
And how does it not just come out utterly juddery?
I bought a sat-nav windscreen suction mount. It is quite good for the price (£15 - £20 IIRC). However, it does judder, and the judder is caused my the mount. You can see it resonating/vibrating under certain conditions.
My video camera also does not have a manual focus mode - so on my last day, it re-focussed a lot. I think that the dead flies on the windscreen were causing the problem. You can see the results here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCKZepjyzzo

I will be getting a proper stick on camera mount before my next track day.

Don
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teabagger

723 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I use tie raps and gaffer tapethumbup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCAlzLI_SI

WEREWOLF

581 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Are suction mounts still acceptable....thought they were gonna get black flagged...

don4l

10,058 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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WEREWOLF said:
Are suction mounts still acceptable....thought they were gonna get black flagged...
My instructor said that they were now banned, but the marshall didn't bat an eyelid. How else can I attach it?


Don
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Toltec

7,179 posts

247 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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WEREWOLF said:
Are suction mounts still acceptable....thought they were gonna get black flagged...
The marshals at Brands Hatch do not allow suction mounts any more. Though you may get away with it if you have some kind of lanyard to prevent the camera from flying around the car in the event of a crash.


F355GTS

3,848 posts

279 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Toltec said:
WEREWOLF said:
Are suction mounts still acceptable....thought they were gonna get black flagged...
The marshals at Brands Hatch do not allow suction mounts any more. Though you may get away with it if you have some kind of lanyard to prevent the camera from flying around the car in the event of a crash.
Silverstone do not allow suction mounts these days as well

cragswinter

21,429 posts

220 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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For the best results you will need a solid mount. This was easy in my car as I had a roll cage but if you don't have one fitted like above a cheap generic sat nav or mobile holder will do.
If you are using a rollcage simply go to your local plumbers merchants & ask for a 1"1/4 steel pipe bracket.get a camera mount from jessops or any camera shop & spot weld theount onto the bracket. I even sprayed mine to match the roll cage.
Another good method is the sticky back Velcro you can buy from sewing shops although some track days may knock you back for this as it could become a missile in an accident!
After this you really need a bullet cam but then that's a whole different thread.....

t11ner

6,926 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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These give good results and value for money and you can get all kinds of different mounts for them - http://www.actioncameras.co.uk/GoPro_Helmet_Hero_W...

Steve H

shim

2,051 posts

232 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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i use a Brian Hague Pro suction mount and have never had an issue at any uk track (sometime tie it to the mirror)

Judder free totally if you have no cage

Paul_M3

2,524 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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I made my own version of the mount which clamps onto the headrest.

I bought a £3.99 mini-tripod off ebay to actually attach the camera to.
This was bolted onto a bit of angle bar with a slot cut in in. Add a couple of plates with bolts through and bob's your uncle. smile





Tried it with my Dad's normal camcorder and the result came out quite good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOGePapz5Kk

nielsen

222 posts

283 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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TheMonster

103 posts

253 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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I use one of these

http://www.b-hague.co.uk/hague_camcorder_headrest_...

expensive i think for what it is but i'm very happy with it.

i was surprised the pictures don't come out with more vibrations /jerky but they don't in my experience - very smooth.

Paul_M3

2,524 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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TheMonster said:
I use one of these

http://www.b-hague.co.uk/hague_camcorder_headrest_...

expensive i think for what it is but i'm very happy with it.

i was surprised the pictures don't come out with more vibrations /jerky but they don't in my experience - very smooth.
Yep, thats exactly the one that I copied for my home made version above. smile

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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It's a compromise between getting a steady vibration-free picture, and shaking the camcorder to bits. I tried various mounting systems but the one I found gives the best results is with a bullet cam strapped down reasonably firmly, with the camcorder just used for storage (so it can be mounted nice and soft).

dunc_sx

1,685 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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Bullet cam taped to rollbar's the only good method I've found so far, seen here in a very hard setup car and it doesn't rattle at all I don't think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3VYixlvgzw

Dunc.

T4RRR

206 posts

243 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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Been using a VIO POV1 kit for a while now and have been very impressed with it.

http://www.vio-pov.com/products/pov_1.php

I picked it up in the US for around £250 but that was when the exchange rate was a little more favourable. The only thing I felt was under par is the audio recording, but that's easily solved by connecting any cheap and cheerful external mic..

mat205125

17,790 posts

237 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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My hague suction mount is really firm, and holds fast really well outside of the car as well as inside. I've used it outside of the car a number of times. Do these circuits that outlaw suction mounts mean inside as well as outside???


kevin63

4,661 posts

277 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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I videoed a track day on the cheap using a £10 suction mount from Maplins and a ATC-2K Action Cam which can be bought off ebay for £69 or less. Here is how it turned out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPsu8wkf1eg it's no profesional kit but as it's waterproof it can be mounted out side the car as I did and mounted it at the side of my number plate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftSCM9WuBY