So - if true - Labour deliberately created mass immigration

[Skywalker]

Sky News Link

If true - this is also one of the most blatant accompaniments to gerrymandering going.

Wait until the the BNP loons scream that ZNL is trying to 'breed the indigenous population out'.

Once again I'll state that the BNP's rise is Blair and Brown's true legacy. Cocks.

[Dunk76]

So, if true, that's social engineering not to better the lot of the populace, but to ensure one's political opponents are kept at bay.

That, if true, is the singularly most cynical bit of politics I've ever learned about in this country's history

[Traveller]

The only thing surprising here is that you are surprised at all. This is B-liar and co. at work. He would violate a hedgehog live at a news conference, if it meant he could count on the beastiality vote.

A truly scary bunch of narcisstic sociopathic kleptomaniacs. And the UK voted this cesspool back into power 3 times, it is almost comedic weren't it for the tragedy.

Edited by Traveller on Saturday 24th October 00:36

[deadslow]

TVR Moneypit said:

I'm not a violent chap, but I think that the next person who I meet who tells me that they are a Labour voter, I may just have to punch them in the face

Actually, that means you ARE a violent chap.

[daveenty]

No idea why people are surprised.

Us older (and probably more cynical) people knew this all along.

New Labour (Same Danger) was the campaign at the time.

Welcome to what you voted for

[Mclovin]

just vote tory, their far from perfect but at least they wont completely shaft the country like the other parties....

[mybrainhurts]

TVR Moneypit said:

deadslow said:

TVR Moneypit said:

I'm not a violent chap, but I think that the next person who I meet who tells me that they are a Labour voter, I may just have to punch them in the face

Actually, that means you ARE a violent chap.

I missed out the usually

Psssst, Frazer...behind you

[scorp]

Mclovin said:

just vote tory, their far from perfect but at least they wont completely shaft the country like the other parties....

Pah. As a 30 year old who grew up in a northern ex-mining town, then worked my way toward a somewhat successful career since virtually leaving school i can't help but feel constantly shafted by whoever has been in power.

[Eggman]

Wholly unsurprising. The main aim of any political party is to get in power and stay in power, so it's in their interest to have the maximum number of people around who'll be more inclined to vote for them. Whoever they are and regardless of the consequences, it's preferable to not being in power.

Now, ask yourself which party well paid workers with secure jobs are least likely to vote for. Then consider in which party's interest it would be to turn you into a poorly paid worker with an insecure job. Is that what you would like to vote for?

[scorp]

Eggman said:

Wholly unsurprising. The main aim of any political party is to get in power and stay in power, so it's in their interest to have the maximum number of people around who'll be more inclined to vote for them. Whoever they are and regardless of the consequences, it's preferable to not being in power.

Same goes for benefits spongers, it's like turkeys voting for christmas.

If one can manipulate the demographics in such a way then something is very wrong with our 'democracy'

[Randy Winkman]

Mclovin said:

just vote tory, their far from perfect but at least they wont completely shaft the country like the other parties....

A recent thread on this site (about the BNP being an extreme left-wing party) suggested that a tight immigration policy was a feature of a left wing government - and a relaxed immigration policy was a feature of a right wing government. So presumably the Tories will let in even more people.

[Morningside]

Labour: Importing voters since 1997.

[turbobloke]

Randy Winkman said:

Mclovin said:

just vote tory, their far from perfect but at least they wont completely shaft the country like the other parties....

A recent thread on this site (about the BNP being an extreme left-wing party) suggested that a tight immigration policy was a feature of a left wing government - and a relaxed immigration policy was a feature of a right wing government. So presumably the Tories will let in even more people.

Which just goes to show what presumption can do.

[JMGS4]

Well the labour Party invented 1 MILLION non-jobs to buy votes, so I can quite believe that the great satan bLIAR would think up such a perverted way of diluting Britain......

[twister]

scorp said:

Pah. As a 30 year old who grew up in a northern ex-mining town, then worked my way toward a somewhat successful career since virtually leaving school i can't help but feel constantly shafted by whoever has been in power.

As a 36 year old who grew up on Tyneside, then worked my way towards a fairly successful career since leaving university, I can't help but feel that whilst the Tories might have done things which weren't so great for certain individuals at that time, they did so mostly for the betterment of the nation as a whole and we all benefited in the long run. Conversely, I can't help but feel that Labour have just been out to feather their own nests, and those of their hardcore supporters, at the expense of everyone else.

Although I didn't vote Labour in 97, I was prepared to give them a chance to prove my doubts about them were ill-founded - surely they wouldn't make the same sort of mistakes that led to the troubles of the late 70's under Callaghan... By 2001 I was already thinking my doubts weren't entirely misplaced and was a bit surprised at how well Labour held onto their majority, and by 2005 I was utterly dismayed to see them cling onto power. Still, only another 7 months to go...

[Mclovin]

your going to get shafted by whoever is in power unless its a liberterian party, its the degree of shafting that is important and tories will be less painful....i think the socialist parties will not make meaningful cuts in public sector which will mean huge pointless tax raises if we are to maintain such a great debt...

do the working sheeple who vote for bnp even know their socialists...

[JagLover]

The great 'transformation' of the Labour party under Tony Blair was not really a change of policy of the party, it was a change of presentation. Not only management of the media but a ruthless control of what was said by all senior figures in the party.

They still had the same left wing agenda, the expansion of the state, higher taxes, increased immigration, 'multi-culturalism', but they talked the language of the right.

Immigration will be tightly controlled they assured the right wing tabloids. While quietly laws and policies were relaxed to ensure mass migration. Look at the immigration statistics and you will see a step change in 1997.

[fido]

Randy Winkman said:

Mclovin said:

just vote tory, their far from perfect but at least they wont completely shaft the country like the other parties....

A recent thread on this site (about the BNP being an extreme left-wing party) suggested that a tight immigration policy was a feature of a left wing government - and a relaxed immigration policy was a feature of a right wing government. So presumably the Tories will let in even more people.

You might be referring to the Tory health minister who imported nurses to fill the expanding NHS (and the fact that many locals did not want to do these jobs) in the 1950s. As a side note his name was Enoch Powell. But this was controlled immigration to the extent that they were required and could be afforded in terms of the social cost i.e. education, housing, etc. Labour have done to nothing to ensure either - but i doubt it's a conspiracy, just another of result of Labour's concentration on spin (getting the votes no matter what the cost) and voracious appetite for public spending i.e. it's cheaper to import people than train the unemployed in the very short-term (which could have been afforded if they had not been so obsessed with giving 50% of students a degree).

Edited by fido on Saturday 24th October 11:24

[GavinPearson]

Mclovin said:

do the working sheeple who vote for bnp even know their socialists...

Do they care?

They just feel angry and want to kick something. Voting BNP is their way of letting the established parties know how they feel, while knowing that there is no penalty for doing so - even if they win 50 seats that would make them as effective as the Liberals currently are, and there aren't that many votes in parliament that are free.

[The Fly Fisher]

The BNP are a far right party - not far left.