PayPal - account review blackmail
PayPal - account review blackmail
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deeps

Original Poster:

5,432 posts

270 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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Anyone else had their PayPal account reviewed recently?

First I knew of it was when I logged in to withdraw some funds, after selling a phone on ebay.

I was greeted by the message 'your account is under review, please complete the following steps'.

I could not withdraw any money untill I had supplied them with my bank details, so they could take all future payments via direct debits from my bank account, instead of via my debit card.

I would have had no problems with that if they had asked me, but to demand it and hold your funds as ransom is totally wrong. So be warned!

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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Awww crap...

This is the final stage in paypal's domination of internet selling. The main point of this is to remove the links with credit cards, as a credit card trumps paypal, and you can always claim your money back through the CC.

Paypal aren't too keen on that, so want to get everyone over bank details where they have full control. It seems like they are now forcing this on people rather than pestering.

davido140

9,616 posts

255 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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TheEnd said:
Awww crap...

This is the final stage in paypal's domination of internet selling. The main point of this is to remove the links with credit cards, as a credit card trumps paypal, and you can always claim your money back through the CC.

Paypal aren't too keen on that, so want to get everyone over bank details where they have full control. It seems like they are now forcing this on people rather than pestering.
likewise paypal have to pay a commision to the CC operator, DD is free Debit Card very cheap for them.

I've also noticed when paying for stuff with paypal (ebay or other internet vendors) I dont get a choice of funding option any more so even though I have a linked CC I cant use it.

I no longer use paypal if I can possibly avoid it.

Furyous

25,717 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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davido140 said:
TheEnd said:
Awww crap...

This is the final stage in paypal's domination of internet selling. The main point of this is to remove the links with credit cards, as a credit card trumps paypal, and you can always claim your money back through the CC.

Paypal aren't too keen on that, so want to get everyone over bank details where they have full control. It seems like they are now forcing this on people rather than pestering.
likewise paypal have to pay a commision to the CC operator, DD is free Debit Card very cheap for them.

I've also noticed when paying for stuff with paypal (ebay or other internet vendors) I dont get a choice of funding option any more so even though I have a linked CC I cant use it.

I no longer use paypal if I can possibly avoid it.
Or indeed, ebay any longer.

catso

16,422 posts

296 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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I had my bank registered with paypal (as you do) and they would always attempt to take payment from this before credit card unless I specified otherwise but then a year or so ago they told me that my bank account was no longer verified? and that I should re-enter all the details, I've not done so and so now they only take from CC now which I prefer. The only downside is that I can't withdraw funds from my paypal account anymore, so I have to spend them instead.

Poledriver

29,589 posts

223 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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They would not let me spend more than £200, except by e-cheque (which takes up to 9 days to clear) until I 'verified' my CC and bank account!
Bunch of

davido140

9,616 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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Furyous said:
davido140 said:
TheEnd said:
Awww crap...

This is the final stage in paypal's domination of internet selling. The main point of this is to remove the links with credit cards, as a credit card trumps paypal, and you can always claim your money back through the CC.

Paypal aren't too keen on that, so want to get everyone over bank details where they have full control. It seems like they are now forcing this on people rather than pestering.
likewise paypal have to pay a commision to the CC operator, DD is free Debit Card very cheap for them.

I've also noticed when paying for stuff with paypal (ebay or other internet vendors) I dont get a choice of funding option any more so even though I have a linked CC I cant use it.

I no longer use paypal if I can possibly avoid it.
Or indeed, ebay any longer.
yes I hadn't sold anything on ebay for months, probably over a year, yet I recently put 20-30 items of old Office type IT equipment (networking, storage, server components) on there, did a spreadsheet to work out ebay and paypal fees.

£660 of sales, £110 to ebay and paypal.... s.

eccles

14,370 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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davido140 said:
TheEnd said:
Awww crap...

This is the final stage in paypal's domination of internet selling. The main point of this is to remove the links with credit cards, as a credit card trumps paypal, and you can always claim your money back through the CC.

Paypal aren't too keen on that, so want to get everyone over bank details where they have full control. It seems like they are now forcing this on people rather than pestering.
likewise paypal have to pay a commision to the CC operator, DD is free Debit Card very cheap for them.

I've also noticed when paying for stuff with paypal (ebay or other internet vendors) I dont get a choice of funding option any more so even though I have a linked CC I cant use it.

I no longer use paypal if I can possibly avoid it.
I still get a funding choice, bank account or card.

eccles

14,370 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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Poledriver said:
They would not let me spend more than £200, except by e-cheque (which takes up to 9 days to clear) until I 'verified' my CC and bank account!
Bunch of
So they try and make it safer for people and you moan about it?

P-J

1,939 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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davido140 said:
yes I hadn't sold anything on ebay for months, probably over a year, yet I recently put 20-30 items of old Office type IT equipment (networking, storage, server components) on there, did a spreadsheet to work out ebay and paypal fees.

£660 of sales, £110 to ebay and paypal.... s.
I use this to work out the costs beforehand - normally very accurate.
http://ecal.altervista.org/en/fee_calculator/ebay....

OP: Was this issue not the usual that once you've had a certain amount of sales they require you to verify for money laundering regulations? Think it's something like the first £600 is ok, after that you need to verify. Not a paypal issue if it is....it's law.

BarnatosGhost

34,082 posts

282 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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They are a bunch of crooks, cannily registered in Switzerland where they can trample all over all sorts of good regulations that exist for good reason elsewhere.

Don't use them. Its a house of cards that will eventually topple over.

Don't allow them to access your money, as they will steal it without appeal.

Don't use their 'services', you're only prolonging their disgusting, unethical existance.

A Royal Shower of Unutterable bds. May they rot.

DJ_AS

352 posts

236 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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davido140 said:
£660 of sales, £110 to ebay and paypal.... s.
Erm, thats how they make money... were you expecting a free service?

davido140

9,616 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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DJ_AS said:
davido140 said:
£660 of sales, £110 to ebay and paypal.... s.
Erm, thats how they make money... were you expecting a free service?
Of course not, however 10% of final value plus a percentage to receive money via paypal (bearing in mind they are the same company) plus a listing fee (in most cases) is a little excesive.

I think you'll find I'm not alone in this opinion by quite a stretch.


King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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deeps said:
Anyone else had their PayPal account reviewed recently?

First I knew of it was when I logged in to withdraw some funds, after selling a phone on ebay.

I was greeted by the message 'your account is under review, please complete the following steps'.

I could not withdraw any money untill I had supplied them with my bank details, so they could take all future payments via direct debits from my bank account, instead of via my debit card.

I would have had no problems with that if they had asked me, but to demand it and hold your funds as ransom is totally wrong. So be warned!
I just had a message telling me "Did you know you can link your Paypal account direct to your bank account instead of your card".

I couldn't work out precisely why I would want to do that, but now I know.

I don't sell anything, just buy, but it is obvious they are making moves on demanding I give them the details/permissions required.

Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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deeps said:
Anyone else had their PayPal account reviewed recently?

First I knew of it was when I logged in to withdraw some funds, after selling a phone on ebay.

I was greeted by the message 'your account is under review, please complete the following steps'.

I could not withdraw any money untill I had supplied them with my bank details, so they could take all future payments via direct debits from my bank account, instead of via my debit card.

I would have had no problems with that if they had asked me, but to demand it and hold your funds as ransom is totally wrong. So be warned!
I had exactly this last year. I completed 2 out of the 3 tasks but the system could not phone me back for some reason as it would not accept my home number. It went on for about 3 months and I was getting seriously narked over it. Eventually after speaking with a helpful chap in Ireland, he managed to remove the block from the account. It was one of the most inconvenient things to do to my account and I told them my views. Also because my ebay account has its own dedicated bank account (to prevent fraud from my main account), when they tried to take money without asking for it first as part of this stupied check, they caused a payment to fail resulting in two charges of £35 for my bank mad I wrote to Paypal showing how they were resonsible for this and they refunded both charges once I had sent them a fax to confirm. I then complained to my bank that taking 2 charges out for a transaction that I was not responsible for, was an unfair charge, and they refunded one of them, so all in all I was up laugh

Buzzkill

786 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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Can't stand them or their flawed policies with regards to ebay selling. There are huge, huge loop holes that just shouldn't exist.

HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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If people insist on Paypal to take payment I just take my business elsewhere, they're not a company I am happy dealing with.

Negative Creep

26,064 posts

256 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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HRG. said:
If people insist on Paypal to take payment I just take my business elsewhere, they're not a company I am happy dealing with.
You have to accept Paypal if selling on ebay though

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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HRG. said:
If people insist on Paypal to take payment I just take my business elsewhere, they're not a company I am happy dealing with.
Out of interest, if people accept PayPal, and other means of payment, would you go elsewhere because they accept PayPal?

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th October 2009
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dilbert said:
HRG. said:
If people insist on Paypal to take payment I just take my business elsewhere, they're not a company I am happy dealing with.
Out of interest, if people accept PayPal, and other means of payment, would you go elsewhere because they accept PayPal?
I have to accept paypal for my website, as all the e commerce software came with it, and until I can afford to do it another way, then I am stuck with it. But I am ammenable to accepting other forms of payment, such as bank transfer, cheque, postal order etc.