Why United Kingdon and not British or English
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May be a stupid question....but i may as well ask....the alternative is to do work, so.....
Why when i fill in stuff on line or on forms, etc...do i have to select United Kingdom as my nationality. Im Engligh - from England.....not Welsh or Scottish....so why is there often no option for English or British?
Im sure there is some obvious answer - so who knows.....
Why when i fill in stuff on line or on forms, etc...do i have to select United Kingdom as my nationality. Im Engligh - from England.....not Welsh or Scottish....so why is there often no option for English or British?
Im sure there is some obvious answer - so who knows.....
plg101 said:
Is it as simple as:
You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
It would be like an American trying to state their nationality as Texan or Californian when infact the only nationality they can be is AmericanThe "United Kingdom" is the term used on legal documents such as passports. Scotland,England,Wales and Northern Ireland are the separate kingdoms that are now united. British is a term that is sometimes confused as meaning English (especially by Americans) but comes British Isles which includes the Republic of Ireland but I don't think the Irish are all that keen to be called British anymore.
boomboompow said:
plg101 said:
Is it as simple as:
You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
It would be like an American trying to state their nationality as Texan or Californian when infact the only nationality they can be is Americandazzztay said:
Why when i fill in stuff on line or on forms, etc...do i have to select United Kingdom as my nationality. Im Engligh - from England.....not Welsh or Scottish....so why is there often no option for English or British?
'The United Kingdom of Great Britain' is the country you live in, not your nationality. Your nationality is 'British'. I can only assume the online forms you talk about are actually asking for 'country' and not nationality.Today it was on the Ryan Air online check-in system.....thats what got me thinking....
Its interesting to hear the differences.....
I still think english should be my nationality and on my passport - but i dont care enough about it to do anything (not that there is much i could do anyway)!
Anyone know the significance of the bird (avian kind) on the photo page on the passport???
Its interesting to hear the differences.....
I still think english should be my nationality and on my passport - but i dont care enough about it to do anything (not that there is much i could do anyway)!
Anyone know the significance of the bird (avian kind) on the photo page on the passport???
boomboompow said:
plg101 said:
Is it as simple as:
You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
Er no it isn't not in the slightest. As someone else said UK is an abbreviation of The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. But England and Scotland are countires in their own right. You don't see Florida entering the football world cup do you. You are a citizen of a sovereign state, which is the United Kingdom.
You may be born in any of the countries within that, but your nationality is based on the overall collective state, not the individual country.
?
It would be like an American trying to state their nationality as Texan or Californian when infact the only nationality they can be is AmericanThis (my) thread - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - Had an interesting slant in that there was no option for "black - british" - I've got to be African, Caribbean, etc - God forbid that I'm black, was born in UK, have parents who were/are from a commonwealth country with over 35 years of British Citizenship and consider myself British
300bhp/ton said:
zac510 said:
It is odd that you can be British, or English, but not UKish 
If there is a noun for that I don't know it!
Again, it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain....... UK and GB are the same thing. It's like being Dutch from Holland. If there is a noun for that I don't know it!uriel said:
I understood it to be that it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. With Great Britain being England, Scotland and Wales.
Does that mean that it's incorrect to refer to the folk from Northern Ireland as British?
Your first statement is correct.Does that mean that it's incorrect to refer to the folk from Northern Ireland as British?
The answer to your question is that it depends if they're protestant or not!
Bluebarge said:
uriel said:
I understood it to be that it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. With Great Britain being England, Scotland and Wales.
Does that mean that it's incorrect to refer to the folk from Northern Ireland as British?
Your first statement is correct.Does that mean that it's incorrect to refer to the folk from Northern Ireland as British?
The answer to your question is that it depends if they're protestant or not!
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