Woman about to give birth objected to non-white staff
Discussion
I couldn't find this, but it seems pretty outrageous to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/hert...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/hert...
BBC News said:
A Buckinghamshire hospital has begun an investigation after a woman about to give birth allegedly objected to non-white staff being in the delivery room.
I wonder what the truth behind this is - and if it is true, whether the staff should have just let her get on with it au natural.... What if there hadn't been a non-white doctor on hand - to be honest, even if there was, I think the hospital would have been well within their rights to tell her to f*** off....I also wonder about the tructh of this. Was it perhaps an incompetent person dealing with her, who happened to be of another skin shade? Probably something totally innocuous, blown out of proportion by ranting rabid PC socialists or coloureds playing the race card because they were wrong somewhere?....
No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 29th October 09:39
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
bakerjuk said:
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
Are YOU more likely to crash in London, Rome, or Mumbai? Remember it's not down to the city. Of course it COULD be down to the fact that driving standards are different in different countries due to factors such as driving tests (if they exist), enforcement of traffic law, road layout and quality etc. Factors which have NOTHING to do with a persons race.She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
JMGS4 said:
I also wonder about the tructh of this. Was it perhaps an incompetent person dealing with her, who happened to be of another skin shade? Probably something totally innocuous, blown out of proportion by ranting rabid PC socialists or coloureds playing the race card because they were wrong somewhere?....
No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
Pretty much exactly what I thought too when I read it. No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
Dr_Gonzo said:
bakerjuk said:
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
Are YOU more likely to crash in London, Rome, or Mumbai? Remember it's not down to the city. Of course it COULD be down to the fact that driving standards are different in different countries due to factors such as driving tests (if they exist), enforcement of traffic law, road layout and quality etc. Factors which have NOTHING to do with a persons race.She may very well be deluded in thinking she will get better service from a "white", We also dont know whats happened to this woman in the past and why she is saying these things. So best to just leave her to it rather than judge her based on presumed reasons.
Saying that all nurses are the same regardless of race, religion, weight etc.. may be fine, but I like this example.
Are you less likely to crach in which taxi?
a) Black cab with a fat white guy in London
b) Bashed up cab with fiery Italian in Rome
c) Old Merc with a gilted tissue box in Mumbai
Dont say its down to the city, because the city is down the people.
I am not saying there are not other factors, but religion and race etc.. DOES have some bearing and its silly to ignore it. If that woman made her choice I dont see why it should be viewed as a problem. If it means extra costs are incurred then she should pick these up.
james_tigerwoods said:
I couldn't find this, but it seems pretty outrageous to me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/hert...
What I don't understand is why the hospital is carrying out a 'full investigation'? The story reads to me: racist woman asks for non-white staff to leave. Hospital refuses request. End of story? What is missing here?http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/hert...
BBC News said:
A Buckinghamshire hospital has begun an investigation after a woman about to give birth allegedly objected to non-white staff being in the delivery room.
I wonder what the truth behind this is - and if it is true, whether the staff should have just let her get on with it au natural.... What if there hadn't been a non-white doctor on hand - to be honest, even if there was, I think the hospital would have been well within their rights to tell her to f*** off....JMGS4 said:
I also wonder about the tructh of this. Was it perhaps an incompetent person dealing with her, who happened to be of another skin shade? Probably something totally innocuous, blown out of proportion by ranting rabid PC socialists or coloureds playing the race card because they were wrong somewhere?....
No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
That's what I thought too. I had to see a gynaecologist at Milton Keynes hospital a few years ago. I'd waited three years to be referred by my doctor for a very painful condition that I'd already had for years, then a nine month wait on the list. I sat in the waiting room for three hours because they make everyone turn up at the same time and the gynaecologist had been called away for an emergency.No place whatsoever for racism IF it's actually true...
By the time it got to my turn, I had the choice of seeing a Nigerian man who I couldn't understand or waiting another hour to see the gynaecologist who I'd been referred to, who happened to be white English.
Given that it had taken me so long to actually see someone, I chose to sit and wait. I didn't care who I saw, what colour they were, what sexuality they were; I simply wanted to be able to understand what they were telling me. Is that racism?
FPC said:
bakerjuk said:
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
Erm, we are. Because it is racist. The situation really is black and white.FPC said:
emicen said:
FPC said:
bakerjuk said:
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
Erm, we are. Because it is racist. The situation really is black and white.
I'll re-iterate for you: this is no different to similar requests/demands made by other ethnic groups day in, day out in the UK. What makes this news worthy, is it was a white person that did it.
In modern have-to-be-oh-so-PC Britain, only white people can be racist, and this merits a full investigation as the hospital will be bricking it that if they dont it will reflect badly on them.
I did not defend racism at all.
FPC said:
emicen said:
FPC said:
bakerjuk said:
If thats her preference who are we to judge.
Erm, we are. Because it is racist. The situation really is black and white.As the article says, what if there were no white staff available? Let her bleed to death? Its a bit of a silly argument really as apparently this is the first time its happened, but just because its her choice doenst mean its racist.
As I said earlier, you dont know her situation, she may have been raped by a non-white to get her pregnant. I dont think we can judge her as that would make us as bad as she is.
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