MOT and engine number question
MOT and engine number question
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ian_uk1975

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

226 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Quick question...

Do MOT testers cross-check the engine number with the V5?

Thanks.

Paul Drawmer

5,124 posts

291 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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AFAIK you don't have to take the V5 to the MOT?

No doubt someone who really knows will be along in a minute..
Why not get the V5 corrected, it only costs the postage?

Kevp

588 posts

275 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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No. Only the chassis number.

ian_uk1975

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

226 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Paul Drawmer said:
AFAIK you don't have to take the V5 to the MOT?

No doubt someone who really knows will be along in a minute..
Why not get the V5 corrected, it only costs the postage?
If somebody was to change an engine for a newer unit that didn't qualify for certain, more relaxed, emissions limits, he might have issues getting it to pass the MOT sniff-test if the V5 was changed to reflect the new engine.

gingerpaul

2,929 posts

267 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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I don't think the emissions change when you change the engine. You just inform the DVLA of the new engine number I think. You don't have to prove the age of the replacement engine. This is one of the reasons I built my car with a 1973 engine.

Also if you're on a Q plate then you should always get the least strict emissions test, regardless of what engine you have or what tests you did at the SVA.

spyder dryver

1,330 posts

240 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Hi there. My MOT tester has never checked the engine or chassis numbers in seven years. The engine number is on the rear face of the block, above the bellhousing and viewing is obstructed by water pipes and it's proximity to the bulkhead anyway.
Geoff.

ian_uk1975

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

226 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Thanks folks... answers my question nicely.

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

219 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Had a lot of trouble convincing my local MOT station of the more relaxed emissions rules for pre 1995 engines. They phoned VOSA who seemed fairly clueless too, told them the emissions levels should be printed on the V5 or the SVA pass certificate? Well I don't have an SVA cert, and my V5 is pretty blank in most areas.

In the end the garage phoned the Westfield factory up who were very helpful and confirmed what I had told them about the non-cat test.

Ravinda

5 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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Hiya MOT testers never check engine numbers as most are so difficult to find, if you do change your engine you should let DVLA know, there is a section on the V5c for engine change notifacation. The DVLA will ask to see the vehicle if you lower the CC (your paying a lower rate of duty) of the engine or if you was to change for petrol to diesel or visa versa

ian_uk1975

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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mr_fibuli said:
Had a lot of trouble convincing my local MOT station of the more relaxed emissions rules for pre 1995 engines. They phoned VOSA who seemed fairly clueless too, told them the emissions levels should be printed on the V5 or the SVA pass certificate? Well I don't have an SVA cert, and my V5 is pretty blank in most areas.

In the end the garage phoned the Westfield factory up who were very helpful and confirmed what I had told them about the non-cat test.
Hmm, strange... my V5 has the emissions limits printed on the cover page.

ian_uk1975

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2009
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Ravinda said:
Hiya MOT testers never check engine numbers as most are so difficult to find, if you do change your engine you should let DVLA know, there is a section on the V5c for engine change notifacation. The DVLA will ask to see the vehicle if you lower the CC (your paying a lower rate of duty) of the engine or if you was to change for petrol to diesel or visa versa
Thanks for info; seems there's no harm in updating the DVLA on the new engine number then. I was just concerned about them being clever and asking me to declare the age of the engine and revising the emissions limits printed on my V5 accordingly.

massivemoto

352 posts

196 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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DVLA will require either a receipt for the engine or a statement from a motor engineer, on headed paper, confirming the capacity and engine number. Your MOT station might do this for you. Either way, if your engine is different from that registered, your insurance may be compromised.
I've just gone from a 1968 1700cc to a 1997 2800cc and that was all that was required.

Edited by massivemoto on Friday 4th December 19:22