Ferrari blame FIA for Manufacturers pulling out!

[Wanta996Gotta]

Good to see Ferrari coming out with this but why did they keep so quiet over the last few years - Blatant favouritism or have they "just" seen the light

Ferrari has suggested that the departure of Toyota, BMW and Honda from Formula 1 in the past year is due to the actions of the sport's bosses rather than the economic downturn.

Toyota announced its decision to pull out of the world championship earlier today, citing the "current severe economic realities" as the reason for its abrupt exit.

But an item published on Ferrari's official website argued that Toyota and its fellow car makers' decisions had been prompted by a 'war on manufacturers' in F1.

"In reality the steady trickle of desertion is more the result of a war against the big car manufacturers by those who managed the sport, than the effects of the economical that affected Formula 1 over the last years," it read.

The article reiterated Ferrari's belief that the independent teams that have been granted 2010 entries are not of the calibre of the manufacturer outfits.

"Formula 1 continues losing important parts: over the last 12 months Honda, BMW, Bridgestone and this morning Toyota announced their retirements. In exchange, if one could call it that, Manor, Lotus [because of the team of Colin Chapman, Jim Clark and Ayrton Senna, to name a few, there is hardly more than the name], USF1 and Campos Meta arrived.

"You might say 'same-same', because it is enough if there are participants. But that's not entirely true and then we've got to see if next year we'll be really as many in Bahrain for the first starting grid of the 2010 season and how many will make it to the end of the season."

The piece also made a cryptic comparison between F1's situation and an Agatha Christie mystery novel, and urged the sport to take action against those responsible for the pull-outs.

"It seems like a parody of Agatha Christie's 'Ten Little Indians', published in England for the first time in the year 1939, but reality is much more serious.

"In Christie's detective novel the guilty person is only discovered when everybody else is dead, one after the other. Do we want to wait until this happens or should we write Formula 1's book with a different closing chapter?"

Ferrari's statement comes on a day when Renault - one of only three manufacturers left in F1 alongside Ferrari and Mercedes - is also evaluating its F1 future. The company is discussing its plans at an extraordinary meeting.

[BoRED S2upid]

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

[Leithen]

Wanta996Gotta said:

Good to see Ferrari coming out with this but why did they keep so quiet over the last few years - Blatant favouritism or have they "just" seen the light

You can answer your own question by doing the smallest amount of research on FOTA/FIA relations over the last two years.

[Wanta996Gotta]

Leithen said:

Wanta996Gotta said:

Good to see Ferrari coming out with this but why did they keep so quiet over the last few years - Blatant favouritism or have they "just" seen the light

You can answer your own question by doing the smallest amount of research on FOTA/FIA relations over the last two years.

Not so sure - The FIA blatantly supported Ferrari over the last few years? Taking the side of Brawn over the Diffusers and rumours of a breakaway were this year.

[Project 644]

And who has just become President of the FIA?

Maybe that is why Ferrari have decided to launch this attack now that the presidential elections are over. Would it have been published if Vatanen had been elected?

[markcoznottz]

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

If they can even make it onto the grid? Is the sponsers money there? what engines will they use, what drivers? who will manufacture the chassis for them?. etc etc etc, boggles the mind really.

[rev-erend]

Ferrari .. thats just political rubbish.

They have just run out of spare money in their piggie banks thats all. I expect they will be back in this and other forms of motor sport when they are cash rich again.

[Gillet]

Didn't Ferrari "effectively" start out as a privateer? and not only that but they didnt even have their own cars, they ran Alfa Romeo's, so surely they should be promoting privateer's, showing them what can be achieved, not slating them.

Lotus was originally a Privateer company aswell.

Just makes you hate Ferrari that little bit more....

[AKA8]

Wanta996Gotta said:

Leithen said:

Wanta996Gotta said:

Good to see Ferrari coming out with this but why did they keep so quiet over the last few years - Blatant favouritism or have they "just" seen the light

You can answer your own question by doing the smallest amount of research on FOTA/FIA relations over the last two years.

Not so sure - The FIA blatantly supported Ferrari over the last few years? Taking the side of Brawn over the Diffusers and rumours of a breakaway were this year.

Flexible floor in 2007? McLarens' punishment in spygate?

Not sure you could ever say they haven't blatantly supported Ferrari.

[Wanta996Gotta]

AKA8 said:

Wanta996Gotta said:

Leithen said:

Wanta996Gotta said:

Good to see Ferrari coming out with this but why did they keep so quiet over the last few years - Blatant favouritism or have they "just" seen the light

You can answer your own question by doing the smallest amount of research on FOTA/FIA relations over the last two years.

Not so sure - The FIA blatantly supported Ferrari over the last few years? Taking the side of Brawn over the Diffusers and rumours of a breakaway were this year.

Flexible floor in 2007? McLarens' punishment in spygate?

Not sure you could ever say they haven't blatantly supported Ferrari.

Yes, re-read my post - The FIA blatantly supported Ferrari over the last few years BUT you could argue not this year when things do seem to have soured.

[Project 644]

Gillet said:

Lotus was originally a Privateer company aswell.

Not quite. Chapman raced alot of his own cars, He also employed "works drivers" to race his cars. He also sold cars to privateer teams in order to subsidise his own racing and that of what was to become "Team Lotus".

[BoRED S2upid]

markcoznottz said:

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

If they can even make it onto the grid? Is the sponsers money there? what engines will they use, what drivers? who will manufacture the chassis for them?. etc etc etc, boggles the mind really.

Cosworth power for a lot of them. See my other thread for who will manufacture the chassis. But yes where is the money coming from?.

[markcoznottz]

BoRED S2upid said:

markcoznottz said:

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

If they can even make it onto the grid? Is the sponsers money there? what engines will they use, what drivers? who will manufacture the chassis for them?. etc etc etc, boggles the mind really.

Cosworth power for a lot of them. See my other thread for who will manufacture the chassis. But yes where is the money coming from?.

Cosworth power for all of them it would seem. The money issue is the most worrying of the lot though. Its not like in the old days when you could bulls*it suppliers by promising payments later, cant help but think there will be tough times ahead

[leothetiler]

Are we not going to see a growing gap as well between the ones with money ie Ferarri, Mclaren and perhaps Red Bull, compared to Manor and Campos for example.

Surely this will be reflected in racing terms and we are likely see a significant difference in lap times, and even more boring racing in the future.

Hope this is not the case.

[RedYellowGreen]

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

Yes this is the 2nd time Ferrari have publicly bhed about the heritage of the newcomers. They would do well to remember that everyone has to start somewhere I think, even if I do slightly agree with them, I have always sort of hoped that F1 would have all the main road car manufacturers dukeing it out together in the future.
It would be highly embarassing if one or more of the new teams stuck one on the reds at some point next year.

[Derek Smith]

RedYellowGreen said:

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

Yes this is the 2nd time Ferrari have publicly bhed about the heritage of the newcomers. They would do well to remember that everyone has to start somewhere I think, even if I do slightly agree with them, I have always sort of hoped that F1 would have all the main road car manufacturers dukeing it out together in the future.
It would be highly embarassing if one or more of the new teams stuck one on the reds at some point next year.

The history of the sport is important. Whilst as you say, everyone has to start somewhere, that somewhere used to be the lower formulae. The teams came is with some credibilty: an F2 championship or similar. Or, more likely, a new boss bought into an established team and carried on with a new name. Toleman anyone? But with the removal of any form of stepping stones to F1, the start will be in F1. Who is going to sit up and take notice when they beat Campos Meta - and I had to look up how to spell it as well.

Tye 'kit car' manufacturers were regarded with contempt by many F1 correspondents in the late 60s and early 70s but with a little bit of luck they could defeat the giants. The sport has changed since then and luck has little to do with it now. The only way these newcomers can stand a chance against the established teams is if they have some advantage in the rules.

Who would bet against the Cosworth engine being the most powerful on the grid by midway through the season? The rules will allow that for reasons of 'fairness' or some such rubbish.

Who would bet on the rules being applied equally between the established teams and those running Cossies?

I'm considering having a bet on Barrichello. Williams is the new Ferrari in the eyes of the FIA, the Cossie the new turbo with rules being altered or ignored to benefit them, and Head has returned.

I think what Ferrari are really concerned about is their own livelihood. What is the point of them staying in a sport where they are fighting with carpet baggers?

[Chrisgr31]

There is a danger that without the manufacturers the TV viewers will stop watching it. That will finish it off nicely!

[Tadite]

RedYellowGreen said:

BoRED S2upid said:

It will be interesting next year to see how competitive these new teams can be.

Yes this is the 2nd time Ferrari have publicly bhed about the heritage of the newcomers. They would do well to remember that everyone has to start somewhere I think, even if I do slightly agree with them, I have always sort of hoped that F1 would have all the main road car manufacturers dukeing it out together in the future.
It would be highly embarassing if one or more of the new teams stuck one on the reds at some point next year.

You think that is going to happen? How often in any Motorsport have non-company backed teams been major contenders? You don't want F1 to go the route of the Touring Car Championships most of which have no major manufacturer backing them and are filled with nothing but reworked cars from years past...

F1 wouldn't be F1 if it is just Ferrari and a whole bunch of just names.