What are the current secret Black aviation projects?
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It seems that in every decade there have been top secret black projects that are revealed when the asset has to be used in anger publicly.
In the 60's it was the U-2, 70's the SR-71, 80's the F-117 etc.
What do we think are the current aircraft that haven't been made public?
Stealth attack/recon drone?
Hypersonic bomber?
Armed Satellites?
In the 60's it was the U-2, 70's the SR-71, 80's the F-117 etc.
What do we think are the current aircraft that haven't been made public?
Stealth attack/recon drone?
Hypersonic bomber?
Armed Satellites?
I'd be stunned if the Yanks haven't got a satellite witha nuke on it somewhere. Most nukes have a limited range, so outside of your silo's you've got to get a sub and all the associated that that goes with a modern nuke sub to the relevant area before launch.
However, if you had say 4 satellite's up there with 1 nuke each, you go pretty much cover anywhere on the planet in minutes...
However, if you had say 4 satellite's up there with 1 nuke each, you go pretty much cover anywhere on the planet in minutes...
Martin Keene said:
I'd be stunned if the Yanks haven't got a satellite witha nuke on it somewhere. Most nukes have a limited range, so outside of your silo's you've got to get a sub and all the associated that that goes with a modern nuke sub to the relevant area before launch.
However, if you had say 4 satellite's up there with 1 nuke each, you go pretty much cover anywhere on the planet in minutes...
Are you confusing ICBMs with Cruise missiles? A SSBN launched balistic missle can go anyway you want it to. Cruise missles have a much shorter range, and require you to get your sub into location first.However, if you had say 4 satellite's up there with 1 nuke each, you go pretty much cover anywhere on the planet in minutes...
Martin Keene said:
a sub and all the associated that that goes with a modern nuke sub
what goes with one? I think the whole point is that they are independent. don't get confused with the carrier groups that have a sub attached to them, that's a different thing.And also, I believe that there are enough of them around, already positioned, so that most of the world is "covered" anyway, especially when you consider the Trident has a range of over 4000 miles...
jmorgan said:
Nukes on satellites? You think they would risk a launch with one of them on?
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
The book by Ben Rich? It's great Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
jmorgan said:
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
I've read that too, it's pretty good. I find the sr-71 fascinating, mainly because it was SO ahead of its time. If someone designed it now it would still be considered a marvel IMOCouple that great read (yep, Ben Rich) with the test NASA did. Look at the size of it in the link. Its the itty bitty thing on the front.
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/research/x43-main.htm...
Methinks it a tad of a way off yet.
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/research/x43-main.htm...
Methinks it a tad of a way off yet.
jmorgan said:
Nukes on satellites? You think they would risk a launch with one of them on?
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
Satellites are rubbish as bomb or missile carriers.Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
They are easilly seen, difficult to manoeuver and easilly hit by anti-satellite missiles. Subs are much better.
Lefty Two Drams said:
And don't satellites take rather a long time to get into position.
I would ahev thought an extreme high-altitude, high-speed stealth drone would do the job better...
Ten minutes for a low earth orbit satellite. It will circle the globe in 90 minutes at those types of altitudes.I would ahev thought an extreme high-altitude, high-speed stealth drone would do the job better...
Lefty Two Drams said:
jmorgan said:
Nukes on satellites? You think they would risk a launch with one of them on?
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
The book by Ben Rich? It's great Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
Eric Mc said:
jmorgan said:
Nukes on satellites? You think they would risk a launch with one of them on?
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
Satellites are rubbish as bomb or missile carriers.Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
They are easilly seen, difficult to manoeuver and easilly hit by anti-satellite missiles. Subs are much better.
Also I remember reading somewhere that a few enterprising souls know where the secret satellites are cos they track them visually, something to do with being secret so the list is not published. So they compare that to the known birds in orbit and Bobs your mothers brother.
jmorgan said:
Nukes on satellites? You think they would risk a launch with one of them on?
Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
you dont have to fire one up there with the pin ready to pull do you though? Could just take the radioactive material seperate and you know plug it in when you get to the space station or something....Interesting read called "Skunk Works". One thing that was very clear was the challenge of getting the SR71 to speed AND keeping the crew alive. Obvious connotations for anything similar or faster.
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