Yet another US shooting
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oldbanger

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4,328 posts

255 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8347663....

tis the season for going postal, it seems!

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

194 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Shooter apprehended by SWAT. Jason Rodriquez is the suspect. Six confirmed victims.

6655321

73,668 posts

272 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.

Rollcage

11,328 posts

209 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
Murdering gays is wrong ,you know.

"Guns dont kill people, rappers do" is a song by Goldie Lookin Chain ,Jimbeaux - I doubt they made it to the States!

6655321

73,668 posts

272 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.

6655321

73,668 posts

272 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.
Just wondering why you seem so adverse to the point. No need to get defensive.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

194 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Of course you can, why not start one now?

You missed my point a little. I suspected people on here were about to start blaming US gun ownership for all these killings when of course that is nonsense. When guns were freely available in the UK we killed each other far less frequently than Americans do and now guns are hard to get here, it's still the same. Whatever makes Americans go off and shoot each other, it's not because they own guns. smile

Disco_Dale

1,893 posts

227 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Yep. Wanna compare numbers per head of population?

(ps...you'll win) wink

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.
Just wondering why you seem so adverse to the point. No need to get defensive.
Not against you; that is known as pre-emptive defense for the flame that will surely come from somewhere. smile

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Disco_Dale said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Yep. Wanna compare numbers per head of population?

(ps...you'll win) wink
Relevance be damned I suppose.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

194 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.
We know it's a fact, but as far as I'm aware, 'blacks' still count as Americans.

6655321

73,668 posts

272 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
Disco_Dale said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Yep. Wanna compare numbers per head of population?

(ps...you'll win) wink
Relevance be damned I suppose.
I'm sure we've had knife crime threads on here, especially after the media had a whole knife thinbg going on last year. You'll notice, Jim, that PH is far from scared of discussing British issues.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

248 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.
We know it's a fact, but as far as I'm aware, 'blacks' still count as Americans.
Sure are; you asked why the figure is so high. I responded by pinpointing the contributing socio-demographic for you. Why they kill one another with such regularity is up for debate.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

194 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
6655321 said:
Jimbeaux said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Guns don't kill people, Americans do. Apparently.
So, can we have a thread everytime someone in the U.K. stabs someone?
Come on Jim... Even you must realise that Americans like nothing more than to murder each other! Just look at the homocide figures!
That must be it, certainly.
Well... Why are the figures so high, especially for a modern 'western' society? It is shocking, do you agree? Why do you think it is so?
This has been done to death on other threads. Aside from the nutters losing mental balance, the majority of our homocides are what is known as "Black on Black crime". Call me a racist or whatever, but that is a fact, take it or leave it.
We know it's a fact, but as far as I'm aware, 'blacks' still count as Americans.
Sure are; you asked why the figure is so high. I responded by pinpointing the contributing socio-demographic for you. Why they kill one another with such regularity is up for debate.
Presumably the same reason certain ethnic groups here account for far more violent crime than their proportion of the population suggests they should and similarly a higher proportion of the prison population.

Jasandjules

71,283 posts

246 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Plenty of countries with more guns per capita don't have such gun crime rates. It's not the guns, it's the attitude of the populace.

Disco_Dale

1,893 posts

227 months

Friday 6th November 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Plenty of countries with more guns per capita don't have such gun crime rates. It's not the guns, it's the attitude of the populace.
Canada, right next door to them being one. Certainly their gun ownership levels are similar.
It is an interesting one. You're right, it is an attitude thing, but what causes such differences.

I'm not too sure it would be much different to the US here if any idiot could go out and buy powerful weapons cheaply and with mimimal screening for mentalists. Think about the way crime is hyped up by the media so half the population is in a state of fear. Scared jumpy people and guns are not a great combination.