BTCC 2010
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norwichsam

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38 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Sorry if there is already a thread relating to this but not seen anything yet. Just wondered what was going on in the world of the btcc? It just seems to be the quietest off season ever, I know its only november but surely if any new cars were being built for next year we would have heard something by now. There's been no hint of any manufacturer entries and even the bigger 'privateer' teams WSR, RML etc haven't given much idea of there plans for next year. Think the series could struggle to top this season which must have been up there with the best btcc seasons ever unless a few top teams and drivers are announced soon (and hopefully some newer cars) or is this going to be a bit of a 'holding season' until the new regs are fully introduced.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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The liveried dodgems series? Can't say it excites me like it should, watching guys continually punting each other off without being punished.

RDM

1,860 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Watched every GP this year and a few GP2, Carrera Cup, Rallies etc on TV this year. The
standout motorsport event for me was the BTCC from Knockhill, that was motor-racing!

RenesisEvo

3,826 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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RDM said:
The
standout motorsport event for me was the BTCC from Knockhill, that was motor-racing!
The final round at Brands was fairly intense to watch! Shame about the dirty Vauxhall tactics, but some exceptional racing was going on.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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They're supposed to be bringing the new "standard" 2 litre turbo engines in a year early but they'll be equalised with the S2000 cars...

Matt Neal tested a Dynamics Honds recently and managed not to hit anyone else....he was the only car on track wink

Floor Tom

419 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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MonkeyHanger said:
Matt Neal tested a Dynamics Honds recently and managed not to hit anyone else....he was the only car on track wink
Sorry but I call BS on this statement.

I was at the Knockhill round this year and watched a few of the rounds on TV after that too. I think its quite entertaining, even if I do wish they would be a bit harder on penalties for shunting. A bit of rubbing is fine but blatently shunting someone off should be delt with. Still we managed to get a champion who could drive cleanly so not all is lost.

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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MonkeyHanger said:
They're supposed to be bringing the new "standard" 2 litre turbo engines in a year early but they'll be equalised with the S2000 cars...
The new NGTC rules are for 2011, its the same regulations as this season next year.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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A bit of an odd question but what will happen to the S2000 cars once the regulations change? Many of the privateer teams have got a lot of money tied up in a car that can't race anywhere in two years time. Will they be able to stick an NGTC engine in one and carry on (except for the Civics, Astras, Leons and the Focus as they will all be too short)?


EDIT: The BMWs will be out too because RWD is banned. Doesn't leave many cars.

Edited by EDLT on Tuesday 10th November 13:25

BMR

962 posts

207 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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S2000 machinery will be able to continue on till 2013 at least, they will be equalised up to that point. I'm sure we will end up with RWD in the new regs, it's just TOCA doesn't want to go to the expense of getting another set of spec equipment designed and built if no one wants to use it.

Forster Motorsport seem to be about the only team making much noise right now. They were testing the ex Mat Jackson BMW at Silverstone last Monday. They plan to have two for next year.

Depending on what you read online it seems Triple Eight may have shut up shop with very few staff left, this could just be normal motorsport practice, especially when you have no definitive 2010 BTCC plans.

VinceTCF

5 posts

202 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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It's a shame about BTCC, this week i've been looking at some great footage of years gone by, the 1992 season, 1989 Birmingham superprix etc... great racing from a great series, I kinda feel that it's no longer like that, doesn't seem to be half as much action these days.

Syndrome

892 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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VinceTCF said:
It's a shame about BTCC, this week i've been looking at some great footage of years gone by, the 1992 season, 1989 Birmingham superprix etc... great racing from a great series, I kinda feel that it's no longer like that, doesn't seem to be half as much action these days.
You're talking about the supertouring era. Major manufacturers spending big bucks on the cars and the race budgets and professional drivers. Those were the halcyon days for sure.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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10 Pence Short said:
The liveried dodgems series? Can't say it excites me like it should, watching guys continually punting each other off without being punished.
Sorry but thats bks drivers do get punished, its just not shouted about. Theres been quite a few drivers given points on their racing licence and recieved fines.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Allyc85 said:
10 Pence Short said:
The liveried dodgems series? Can't say it excites me like it should, watching guys continually punting each other off without being punished.
Sorry but thats bks drivers do get punished, its just not shouted about. Theres been quite a few drivers given points on their racing licence and recieved fines.

Its still very early days yet and deffo no quieter than usual, most announcements come after xmas.

888 still have their 3 Vectras and they are for sale or can be run by them if someone stumps up the money
Team Dynamics are looking for more backing from Honda and want to run two seperate 2 car car teams
Volvo have been linked with a return to the BTCC.
RML Maybe using the Cruz next year.
Arena Motorsport want to run 3 cars in 2010 with Chilton, Onslow Cole and another driver.



Edited by Allyc85 on Tuesday 10th November 16:42

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Floor Tom said:
Sorry but I call BS on this statement.
You can call whatever you like. He drove a Dynamics Honda very recently as was reported in Motorsport News. He also has a history of dirty driving.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Marc W said:
MonkeyHanger said:
They're supposed to be bringing the new "standard" 2 litre turbo engines in a year early but they'll be equalised with the S2000 cars...
The new NGTC rules are for 2011, its the same regulations as this season next year.
Motorsport News. 4th November said:
Alan Gow, boss of the BTCC, has confirmed that the new control 2 litre turbocharged engine will be introduced into the series next year for teams that wish to use it.
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Cars fitted with the bespoke unit, which is expected to cost around £25K, will be equalised to run at the same performance levels as the existing units.
And there you go. smile

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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I'd be surprised if anyone uses them. Most of the cars that are around at the moment already have engines and the ones that don't would require redesigning to fit the non standard engine. With the costs this wouldadd plus the possibility of intorducing unreliability it doesn't really make sense to use one until the new rules come in and it can be fitted into cars built from scratch. Of course I could be wrong but it would seem to be an over complicated route for 2010 when there are currently plenty of current spec cars available with engines.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Allyc85 said:
Its still very early days yet and deffo no quieter than usual, most announcements come after xmas.

888 still have their 3 Vectras and they are for sale or can be run by them if someone stumps up the money
Team Dynamics are looking for more backing from Honda and want to run two seperate 2 car car teams
Volvo have been linked with a return to the BTCC.
RML Maybe using the Cruz next year.
Arena Motorsport want to run 3 cars in 2010 with Chilton, Onslow Cole and another driver.
Mostly right, but I couldn't possibly confirm or deny anything wink

One thing which is no secret it that Matt Neil will end up in a TD Civic, the question is who will be in the number 2 car - Johnny Herbert or Dave Pinkney, and that depends on sponsorship rather than talent. Lets hope next year is as exciting as this year!

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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jamiebae said:
Allyc85 said:
Its still very early days yet and deffo no quieter than usual, most announcements come after xmas.

888 still have their 3 Vectras and they are for sale or can be run by them if someone stumps up the money
Team Dynamics are looking for more backing from Honda and want to run two seperate 2 car car teams
Volvo have been linked with a return to the BTCC.
RML Maybe using the Cruz next year.
Arena Motorsport want to run 3 cars in 2010 with Chilton, Onslow Cole and another driver.
Mostly right, but I couldn't possibly confirm or deny anything wink

One thing which is no secret it that Matt Neil will end up in a TD Civic, the question is who will be in the number 2 car - Johnny Herbert or Dave Pinkney, and that depends on sponsorship rather than talent. Lets hope next year is as exciting as this year!
You can always hint wink

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Allyc85 said:
jamiebae said:
Allyc85 said:
Its still very early days yet and deffo no quieter than usual, most announcements come after xmas.

888 still have their 3 Vectras and they are for sale or can be run by them if someone stumps up the money
Team Dynamics are looking for more backing from Honda and want to run two seperate 2 car car teams
Volvo have been linked with a return to the BTCC.
RML Maybe using the Cruz next year.
Arena Motorsport want to run 3 cars in 2010 with Chilton, Onslow Cole and another driver.
Mostly right, but I couldn't possibly confirm or deny anything wink

One thing which is no secret it that Matt Neil will end up in a TD Civic, the question is who will be in the number 2 car - Johnny Herbert or Dave Pinkney, and that depends on sponsorship rather than talent. Lets hope next year is as exciting as this year!
You can always hint wink
Well everything depends on money and people raising enough sponsorship to fund things so I wouldn't want to speculate, but everything on your list is possible according to what I've been told wink

Adrian W

15,494 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Allyc85 said:
Allyc85 said:
10 Pence Short said:
The liveried dodgems series? Can't say it excites me like it should, watching guys continually punting each other off without being punished.
Sorry but thats bks drivers do get punished, its just not shouted about. Theres been quite a few drivers given points on their racing licence and recieved fines.
How can that be bks when Matt Neal hasn't been banned, sooner or later he will kill or seriously injure another driver, then people will whinge that they should have done something about him.