Which political party leader was in Wooton Bassett today??
Which political party leader was in Wooton Bassett today??
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bleesh

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1,112 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Winky? NO!!
Cameron? NO!!
The bloke from the Liberal Democrats ;-) NO!!
Nick Griffin? YES!!

You may not agree with his politics but good for him.

However, after Winky's latest fiasco, why the fcensoredk could he not have gone - apart from the fact that he'd probably have been lynched........

Skywalker

3,269 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.

Iain328

14,053 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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It would hardly be a struggle to have somebody from the Cabinet there every week to represent the Government now would it? There's about 25 of them - they'd be there twice a year each....

Westy Pre-Lit

5,088 posts

220 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?
Would the others ?

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.
I watched an attempted interview with him today at Wooton Bassett and he wasn't up for talking, he said he was there to pay his respects and that is all. He was vey short with the interviewer who clearly wanted more from him.

Maybe he was there to score points?

Disco_Dale

1,893 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.
So what's this post other than point scoring?
Hypocrite.

Dunk76

4,350 posts

231 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Uhura_Fighter said:
Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.
I watched an attempted interview with him today at Wooton Bassett and he wasn't up for talking, he said he was there to pay his respects and that is all. He was vey short with the interviewer who clearly wanted more from him.

Maybe he was there to score points?
The irony of the liberal progressive Britain in which we live now is that it's only a political party on the relative extreme, generally regarded as scum, who are doing the right thing. Whilst Brown is embroiled in a row over not bowing at the Cenotaph (unforgiveable) and wonky handwriting (much ado about nothing), Griffin actually has moved to some sort of moral high ground!

Indeed, had one of the main three turned up, I don't doubt that they'd have made a big thing of it with any press in the vicinity. That Griffin was obviously not wanting to be interviewed is a powerful message.

A similar message, in many ways, to his willingness to turn up to QT - he knew, like we all did, it was going to be a lynch mob, yet he still had the moral fibre to sit there and take the kicking that was dished out.

His appearance at Wooton Bassett was no doubt a deliberate ploy (after all, you don't accidentally go to Wooton Bassett on a day like that), as was his cutting short the interview. I suspect it may have been a bit of a waste of time in that respect - the mainstream media wouldn't dream of actually pointing out anything like that. However, it'll be noticed in certain places.

You may think him and his party are morally reprehensible, but he's slowly beginning to appeal to a lot of people - the working class especially - purely because he can be arsed to do stuff like this, and because he's not afraid of getting into situations which aren't carefully stage-managed.

I've been pondering the appearance on QT for a while now, and it does appear to have had the desired effect (for the BNP at least) of moving them further into the political arena. The horror and indignation expressed by the equally reprehensible political elite now seems to have more perceptive than I first thought.

As a dyed in the wool Tory, I'm not for the BNP, but I'll give them this; at least he appears to give fig about Britain as a whole, rather than just small segments of society or pressure groups. And, at least I have some inkling of what they stand for, and at least I don't feel I'm being lied or spun to in the same patronising way when Griffin opens his mouth: A criticism which has to be levelled at all those currently occupying the halls of Westminster, and one which may very well see the BNP gain considerable momentum at the next round of Council elections.

Griffin is playing the long game, although unwittingly I suspect - it won't be him who sees the BNP into Westminster, it'll be a young Usurper; a Tony Blair to his Neil Kinnock. Someone who can say and do the right thing, but without the baggage of Holocaust denials and other ludicrous statements.

Very clever.

Halb

53,012 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Uhura_Fighter said:
Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.
I watched an attempted interview with him today at Wooton Bassett and he wasn't up for talking, he said he was there to pay his respects and that is all. He was vey short with the interviewer who clearly wanted more from him.

Maybe he was there to score points?
If he didn't want to be interviewed and was short, sounds more like he really wanted to be there to pay his respects.

anonymousposter

131 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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I wonder if he has the same respect for the non-white soldiers we've lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I doubt it somehow.

G_T

16,163 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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anonymousposter said:
I wonder if he has the same respect for the non-white soldiers we've lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I doubt it somehow.
Here here!

During WW2, My Irish grandparents fought in the British army along with many other non-British nationals. I wonder if he spared a moment for the sacrifices they and their kind made?

The man is a sycophant. Not even the military want his accolade.

Balmoral Green

42,441 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Did anyone see the Ian Hislop documentary on C4 the other evening? Somehow, I doubt the BNP would have approved.

ypauly

15,137 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Hugo a Gogo

23,417 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Griffin said that Johnson Beharry's actions in winning the VC were 'routine' - he only got the medal because he is black, according to the BNP
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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ypauly said:
To a BNP support site after leaving Wooton Bassett.


ETA: Reading the article it looks like it was written by Imran Kahn. 15 million Pashtouns in pakistan and 25 million in Afganistan, A war on terror/Islam is making pakistan unstable.

Edited by Uhura_Fighter on Wednesday 11th November 14:09

ypauly

15,137 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Uhura_Fighter said:
ypauly said:
To a BNP support site after leaving Wooton Bassett.
True as like you said he wasn't upto an interview there.

Halb

53,012 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Balmoral Green said:
Did anyone see the Ian Hislop documentary on C4 the other evening? Somehow, I doubt the BNP would have approved.
The 'conchie' one? I thought it was brilliant!

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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I think the fact that none of the major politicians have been to to WB is disgusting.

Skywalker

3,269 posts

231 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Disco_Dale said:
Skywalker said:
Did he turn up to pay his respects?

Or did he turn up with his baby-sitter to get photographed there and score some points using the poor troops that had paid the price?

I somehow doubt that he was being altruistic.
So what's this post other than point scoring?
Hypocrite.
^ What?

Nowt but point scoring? No.
It was entering into the debate, and placing my view that I distrust his motivation and the veneer of respectability he is painting himself with.

As said in a post above - he is using methods to appeal to a wide range of disenfranchised people who have been decidedly let down and sold out by the Main Stream political parties.

Not frightened by this?

Well you should be. This is exactly the same methods adopted by Hitler in the mid 1920s - Nationalism, anti-<somebody>, trying to appear respectable and representing the oppressed majority.

He is Bliar and Brown's legacy - they must be so proud (Now THAT is point scoring)







Bing o

15,184 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
I think the fact that none of the major politicians have been to to WB is disgusting.
They are doing it so as not to politicise it, IIRC

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Bing o said:
odyssey2200 said:
I think the fact that none of the major politicians have been to to WB is disgusting.
They are doing it so as not to politicise it, IIRC
having sent them to their deaths on behalf of the Government, the very least they could do is to have a representative present as a mark of respect IMHO.


bastids!!