IRA killer charged - 32 years later

[Ayahuasca]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_irelan...

Captain Robert Nairac, George Cross, was kidnapped from a pub, driven across the border and allegedly chopped into small pieces by IRA scum.

One of the scum fled to the USA where he was sheltered for 29 years! He came back to the UK and was arrested.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Wednesday 11th November 19:17

Edited by Ayahuasca on Wednesday 11th November 20:59

[CooperD]

Even if he's found guilty of the murder he's probably unlikely to spend long in prison because of the Good Friday agreement.

[Dunk76]

Nairac's an intriguing character to read into - general consensus these days is that he had gone very rogue in his activities in 14 Int. Even the SAS in the area were concerned about what he was up to.

[Ayahuasca]

He does seem to have been a bit reckless, but gonads the size of a planet.

This is him in his Republican disguise:

[Police State]

BBC report said: The court heard the police had spoken to the FBI about what he did in the intervening years in the US.


now if only he had hacked into their defence computers...

[tzfan]

Police State said:

BBC report said: The court heard the police had spoken to the FBI about what he did in the intervening years in the US.


now if only he had hacked into their defence computers...

Agreed, the hypocrisy of the septics is astonishing with the large amounts of money collected in Boston, NY etc for 'victims of the struggle' and funnelled directly into provo coffers.

War against terrorism? There wasn't one until it landed on their own doorstep.

[Eric Mc]

Dunk76 said:

Nairac's an intriguing character to read into - general consensus these days is that he had gone very rogue in his activities in 14 Int. Even the SAS in the area were concerned about what he was up to.

From what I've read about his activities, he was very much his own man and worked out his own strategies. I reckon he was let get on with it by his commanders on the basis that the best way to obtain information covertly is to adopt unorthodox methods. Unfortunately for Nairac, he obviously failed to maintain his cover effectively.

As for the people who killed him, in their mind they were involved in a war and he was a spy - so to them there could only be one punishment.

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 11th November 22:51

[Ayahuasca]

tzfan said:

Police State said:

BBC report said: The court heard the police had spoken to the FBI about what he did in the intervening years in the US.


now if only he had hacked into their defence computers...

Agreed, the hypocrisy of the septics is astonishing with the large amounts of money collected in Boston, NY etc for 'victims of the struggle' and funnelled directly into provo coffers.

War against terrorism? There wasn't one until it landed on their own doorstep.

True. 9/11 was a wake-up call for them and the death knell for the IRA.

[catso]

Ayahuasca said:

tzfan said:

Police State said:

BBC report said: The court heard the police had spoken to the FBI about what he did in the intervening years in the US.


now if only he had hacked into their defence computers...

Agreed, the hypocrisy of the septics is astonishing with the large amounts of money collected in Boston, NY etc for 'victims of the struggle' and funnelled directly into provo coffers.

War against terrorism? There wasn't one until it landed on their own doorstep.

True. 9/11 was a wake-up call for them and the death knell for the IRA.

And there was me thinking Tony Bliar had brought peace in NI...

[jeff m]

So you can add this to the list of
"Ways to get a US resident visa"

BTW the money openly collected for the IRA ceased during Maggies time with the help of Regan.
Even that effort was overdue.

[Jimbeaux]

jeff m said:

So you can add this to the list of
"Ways to get a US resident visa"

BTW the money openly collected for the IRA ceased during Maggies time with the help of Regan.
Even that effort was overdue.

It did under Reagan; but honestly, even though that was private groups in a couple of New England states collecting funding, the FBI should have cracked down on that decades ago with the same fervor they do other types schemes.

[jeff m]

Jimbeaux said:

jeff m said:

So you can add this to the list of
"Ways to get a US resident visa"

BTW the money openly collected for the IRA ceased during Maggies time with the help of Regan.
Even that effort was overdue.

It did under Reagan; but honestly, even though that was private groups in a couple of New England states collecting funding, the FBI should have cracked down on that decades ago with the same fervor they do other types schemes.

Ah just spotted my error Reagan not Regan, silly me, Regan would have no part in stopping it, he would more likely to have tossed a dollar into one of those tins

[Dunk76]

Eric Mc said:

Dunk76 said:

Nairac's an intriguing character to read into - general consensus these days is that he had gone very rogue in his activities in 14 Int. Even the SAS in the area were concerned about what he was up to.

From what I've read about his activities, he was very much his own man and worked out his own strategies. I reckon he was let get on with it by his commanders on the basis that the best way to obtain information covertly is to adopt unorthodox methods. Unfortunately for Nairac, he obviously failed to maintain his cover effectively.

As for the people who killed him, in their mind they were involved in a war and he was a spy - so to them there could only be one punishment.

I my own intrepretation was that he'd gone too far with operating on his own initiative. However, as we will probably never know what Army Intelligence's involvement with loyalist paramilitaries actually was during that period it's probably best not to judge.