The Waters of Mars
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Gun

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13,432 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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New Doctor Who on now, looks good from the adverts.

CastrolCraig.

18,073 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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looks a rather more dark one than usual

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

235 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Wow, quite twisty.

Can't wait to see John Simm back as The Master.

Mutley

3,178 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Very good ep, loved the final twist. Fixed point in time etc, don't want to say too much incase of spoilers, but brilliant!!

Shame there are no spoiler tags to hide text

Gun

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13,432 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Great episode and can't wait for the Christmas specials now!

Wildsea

1,855 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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The scariest Dr. Who ever I think. Realy looking forward to the next episodes, with the fab John Simm

ajprice

31,664 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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It was a good one, looking forward to the Christmas double. I only found out in the Radio Times this week who was in the last 2 episodes, they did a good job to keep it quiet… I was expecting Daleks/Cybermen to be rolled out for the big finish.

MiniMan64

18,645 posts

210 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Thought it was very good but I could have done without the rocket powered robot with the 'Back-to-Future' style fire tracks, bit too much silliness kind of ruining the darkness of the episode a bit.

Loved the rest of it though, is the Doctor supposed to going a bit nuts now then? Too much time on his own?

Wildsea

1,855 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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MiniMan64 said:
Loved the rest of it though, is the Doctor supposed to going a bit nuts now then? Too much time on his own?
Yeah there was definatly a turning point. Into real arrogance especially calling the people he saved the little people. What a fantastic performace from David Tennant again. He will always be my Doctor.

Gun

Original Poster:

13,432 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Wildsea said:
MiniMan64 said:
Loved the rest of it though, is the Doctor supposed to going a bit nuts now then? Too much time on his own?
Yeah there was definatly a turning point. Into real arrogance especially calling the people he saved the little people. What a fantastic performace from David Tennant again. He will always be my Doctor.
Yep, almost feel sorry for the new guy although he does have Steven Moffat writing his episodes.

Mutley

3,178 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Was interesting to see how the Doctor behaves without a moral compass of a companion, the arrogance that is more akin to The Master. And what it takes to snap him out of it

Penny-lope

13,645 posts

213 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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I was quite shocked that my son (7 next week) guessed the captain was going to kill herself.

But apart from that, jolly good as always.

FourWheelDrift

91,559 posts

304 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Calling it Bowie Base One was amusing, because after the nuclear explosion it went from Life on Mars to Ashes to Ashes.

I bet Russell T Davies even thought of getting John Simm back as the master for that one.

wink

otolith

64,253 posts

224 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Thought it was good, if a bit on the "28 days later" side for that early evening slot - the drop of water in the eye seemed like a deliberate acknowledgement of that film.

Here's a surprise, though - there's something scary out there. In the dark. And it's coming. Crikey, that's a new plotline departure for Russell T Davies, isn't it?

Motorrad

6,811 posts

207 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Other than the ending I thought it was pretty slack, poorly acted in parts and very childish (Doctor Who for children?>!!!?>> what next?). The gadget gadget crap was utter pish.

I like the idea of the Doctor going insane with power however, I'm hoping he's going to turn mass murderer and have to be saved by the master from his own evil.......

mightymouse

1,438 posts

248 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Good episode....very dark
Christmas one should be a corker bounce

ali_kat

32,128 posts

241 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mutley said:
Was interesting to see how the Doctor behaves without a moral compass of a companion, the arrogance that is more akin to The Master. And what it takes to snap him out of it
Hasn't he always said he likes having a companion to keep his morals straight? IIRC that is what he and Donna discussed.

Interesting the RTD said in the podcast after The Master was shot by Lucy Saxon and refused to regenerate to hurt The Doctor that "they had no intention of bringing him back" yet here he is in the 2009 Christmas Special. Wonder how they are going to explain his 'rebirth'?

MiniMan64

18,645 posts

210 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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SOmething to do with the ring that was picked up? Like what the Doctor had with his watch? And what about Donna and her dormant Timelord genes? Where theres a will theres a way.

Of course I've just remembered I'm skiing for the New Year so I'll miss part 2 and i won't be back within a week to catch it on I-Player frown

shauniebabes

445 posts

196 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Russell T Davies steals previously used sci-fi ideas to put his characters in peril, and is then completely hopeless at getting them out of it without lazy writing and big red reset buttons.

The Doctor knows the base is going to be destroyed in a nuclear blast that will leave no bodies. Yet he can't see the bleedin' obvious solution to saving them that the audience has worked out after 5 minutes.

FourWheelDrift

91,559 posts

304 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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shauniebabes said:
Russell T Davies steals previously used sci-fi ideas to put his characters in peril, and is then completely hopeless at getting them out of it without lazy writing and big red reset buttons.

The Doctor knows the base is going to be destroyed in a nuclear blast that will leave no bodies. Yet he can't see the bleedin' obvious solution to saving them that the audience has worked out after 5 minutes.
Which is? Baring in mind he didn't choose to save them until the very end as changing a fixed point of time is against Time Lord code.