V8 Vantage - Water in boot
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Hi all - did a quick search and couldnt find anything - but has anyone has a problem with the boot filling with water? Clearly its rained a little bit(!) over the last few days but the car was under a cover. I drove it for an hour or so in the rain saturday, parked up, opened the boot this morning (it rained last night too) and it was literally sopping wet. Seems to be very wet around the boot lock on the tailgate side too so guess its running in from there? Cant see anything wrong with the seal - but this was a LOT of water.. :-( Any thoughts? I've only had it a couple of months, and its going in for an MOT in a month, but I dont like the idea of my nice fluffy boot carpets going all manky!
Thanks in advance!
Spence
Thanks in advance!
Spence
Wet boot - my V8V was more like a mobile swimming pool a couple of weeks back.... This is the second time it has been back to the dealer with this particular problem. Last time they told me they had cured it. I guess they lied! Bit like the fact they told me they would return it to me last week (it has been with them for nearly two weeks). They now tell me they will return it to me next week. I guess they lied again!
In total, I think my two V8Vs have been back to the dealer maybe 15 times over a four year period. Can anyone beat that???
Exactly like that! Sorry to hear about your woes.. Did they tell you what they thought the problem was? I assume is a window seal? Im just taking solace from the fact that a week earlier the g/f and i went away for the weekend and the boot was full of bags / cameras / laptop etc..
Back to drying bits of carpet on the radiators... :-(
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Back to drying bits of carpet on the radiators... :-(
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If it helps, I had this exact same problem on the V8V I owned before my current car. It too ended up with a swimming pool in the boot. I was told it was the seal on the break light that was leaking. They replaced it very quickly and I never had the problem again. Also they replaced the carpet for me. I thought the service was excellent.
I can understand and sympathise with your frustration. This is the second Vantage that I have owned and the problems seem to be common. On both cars I have had to have the noise from the front vents sorted so they don't rattle and the side speakers dampened so that they don't vibrate. Now with your leak in the boot which seems similar to the problem I had, I suspect these are all problems that are occuring on a number of Vantages.
As I said the customer service at my dealer has been fantastic, but I really think these are issues that should have been noted by the Aston Martin factory and sorted before the cars are ever released. Also as a customer, I don't know why Aston Martin does not post a list of known systematic problems on their website that might occur and what to look out for (as well as the fix). Of course ideally they should fix these before release, but given that lots of cars have already been sold, such a list would be very helpful, and to my mind good customer service.
As I said the customer service at my dealer has been fantastic, but I really think these are issues that should have been noted by the Aston Martin factory and sorted before the cars are ever released. Also as a customer, I don't know why Aston Martin does not post a list of known systematic problems on their website that might occur and what to look out for (as well as the fix). Of course ideally they should fix these before release, but given that lots of cars have already been sold, such a list would be very helpful, and to my mind good customer service.
I remember that we put together a list of known issues when I first got my DB9 in 2005. It took a frustrating long time before the niggles where sorted out and it is pretty incomprehensible that AML does not react to this as prevention is a lot cheaper than cure in this case.
I am happy to report that after the first 1000 miles in my V12 Vantage nothing has come up at all - so fingers crossed.
I am happy to report that after the first 1000 miles in my V12 Vantage nothing has come up at all - so fingers crossed.
Tacitus et al.... I think there are a number of recurring problems with the V8V. Leaky boots are one, the engine crapping out is another. This is my biggest woe. As it stands, i've suffered around 19 engine "crap-outs" so far on three different V8Vs. A new fuel tank fitted under warranty earlier this year has not cured the problem and still it 'dies' when accelerating away in second from eg a traffic light. Whilst I love the car and the marque I'm just about at my wits end with abject frustration at the unreliable nature of the cars.
My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
oceantools said:
Tacitus et al.... I think there are a number of recurring problems with the V8V. Leaky boots are one, the engine crapping out is another. This is my biggest woe. As it stands, i've suffered around 19 engine "crap-outs" so far on three different V8Vs. A new fuel tank fitted under warranty earlier this year has not cured the problem and still it 'dies' when accelerating away in second from eg a traffic light. Whilst I love the car and the marque I'm just about at my wits end with abject frustration at the unreliable nature of the cars.
My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
Sorry to hear that you are still having trouble. After I had the fuel tank replaced my car has not done that since (touch wood).My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
Have you been back in touch with the chap from AM? I found him "ok", but not reliable - I had to keep calling him rather than him calling me back...
oceantools said:
Tacitus et al.... I think there are a number of recurring problems with the V8V. Leaky boots are one, the engine crapping out is another. This is my biggest woe. As it stands, i've suffered around 19 engine "crap-outs" so far on three different V8Vs. A new fuel tank fitted under warranty earlier this year has not cured the problem and still it 'dies' when accelerating away in second from eg a traffic light. Whilst I love the car and the marque I'm just about at my wits end with abject frustration at the unreliable nature of the cars.
My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
Yeah, I can definitely see your point, and would feel exactly the same in your shoes. Knock on wood, I haven't had any major issues with my cars. But I tend to think the resolution of these issues, shouldn't be a luck issue. By the sound of some of the posts on here there seems to be a difference in the responsiveness in some of the dealers. I and others seems to have lucked out in having really good dealers. Why don't you write to one of the senior guys at Aston, and explain the situation to them. I am sure they would be concerned about hearing your story and would want do something to correct the situation, and get you to buy the Rapide!!My order for the Rapide is on hold for the time being!
a bootful of water has been a recurring one for me throughout owning the car. Dealer has looked at it several times but still happening. It seems to be the drain holes in the boot lid that don't let water out fast enough (especially if partially blocked), the water builds up inside boot and flows over into storage area. I noticed after last time it looks like they've drilled a couple of holes next to the existing holes - this did seem to help and it stayed dryer for longer.
Wouldn't bother me if it was garaged I suspect but its poor when the odd chance I get to take it somewhere I need to bail water out of the boot. Takes me back to my A-reg fiesta days...
Wouldn't bother me if it was garaged I suspect but its poor when the odd chance I get to take it somewhere I need to bail water out of the boot. Takes me back to my A-reg fiesta days...
I noticed that even though it was raining torrentially the boot was not flooding. The flooding only occurred after driving some 50miles. I suspect that the water ingress is caused by water not clearing the drain holes quickly enough when the car is moving at speed.
I doubt if a letter to the grown-ups at Aston complaining about the various shortcomings of the cars would elicit much of a response. And not sure I actually want another Aston after all the problems over the last 4 years!! My 46 year old Volvo P1800S is just about as much fun to drive, costs £0 in road tax, costs less than £100 a year to insure and does not leak like a sodding sieve....
I doubt if a letter to the grown-ups at Aston complaining about the various shortcomings of the cars would elicit much of a response. And not sure I actually want another Aston after all the problems over the last 4 years!! My 46 year old Volvo P1800S is just about as much fun to drive, costs £0 in road tax, costs less than £100 a year to insure and does not leak like a sodding sieve....
I only went to the car park before the run Oceantools refers to and ended up with a flooded boot. Some of the water went in when I opened boot to get spare umbrella and discharged the boot 'reservoir', and the rest I think was overflow due to slow or blocked drainage. I've also got a small oil leak, faulty powerfold mirror, and a couple of minor rattles. But still cannot think of another car I would rather have for the same money. Car booked to go to dealer next week so hopefully these problems get sorted under warranty
A decent dealer *must* be able to solve this with a bit of thought.
I was getting irritated by simply getting dribbles of water in the boot when opening it after the car had been stood in the rain. Dealer fitted a new type seal around the rear window sans drain holes. Job done. Occasionally get a tiny amount in when there's a lot of dirt on the rear interrupting flow off of water, but generally it's now fine.
It seems that either this seal, or the ones around the lights seem to be the usual suspects. If not, I'd suspect the fit/alignment of the boot lid. But there can't be infinite causes of this! And there's nothing worse than a leaky boot.
Oil leak - timing chain cover I think is the usual cause. Again, a known "niggle".
Rattles - again, can be known issues. Mine's pretty much rattle free (fortunately) but the front "beam" across the front of the dash, on the passenger side, squeaks like a b
d every now and then. Bit of talc applied carefully stops it. Think I'm going to rip off SoulReaver though and have a few bits of trim done in alcantara at some point, which will cure it for good.
I was getting irritated by simply getting dribbles of water in the boot when opening it after the car had been stood in the rain. Dealer fitted a new type seal around the rear window sans drain holes. Job done. Occasionally get a tiny amount in when there's a lot of dirt on the rear interrupting flow off of water, but generally it's now fine.
It seems that either this seal, or the ones around the lights seem to be the usual suspects. If not, I'd suspect the fit/alignment of the boot lid. But there can't be infinite causes of this! And there's nothing worse than a leaky boot.
Oil leak - timing chain cover I think is the usual cause. Again, a known "niggle".
Rattles - again, can be known issues. Mine's pretty much rattle free (fortunately) but the front "beam" across the front of the dash, on the passenger side, squeaks like a b
d every now and then. Bit of talc applied carefully stops it. Think I'm going to rip off SoulReaver though and have a few bits of trim done in alcantara at some point, which will cure it for good.This happened to my V8 too - about an inch of water in the boot one morning! The dealer replaced all the carpet under warranty of course, but the cure was to fill in the drain holes (with black gooey stuff) in the rear window surround. This was all about 2 years ago, haven't had any problems at all since then
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