Returning to work after having a baby...
Returning to work after having a baby...
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Mr Will

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13,719 posts

235 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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...or not in the case of Mrs Will. Childcare is just too expensive.

To cut a long story short, our first child was born at the end of October last year. Mrs Will took a years maternity leave and then was made redundant shortly before she was due to return to work. A couple of her ex-colleagues recommended her to some other companies and she ended up being offered a job with a respectable salary of £29k.

Sounded great and we were all set to go for it until we sat down and worked out the costs. By the time you have taken away tax, NI, student loan and travel to and from the city she would be fetching in £67 a week more than the child-minder would be costing us. Then we'd need to pay for lunches, work clothes, etc out of that £67, meaning that essentially she would be working for almost nothing and we would not be raising our own child.

Anyway, we've bitten the bullet and decided that it's just not worth it, Mrs Will has turned down the job and is now looking for part time work in the evenings instead, followed by a career change once Little Miss Will is off to nursery/school.

How can people afford to pay over £14k out of their net income just on full-time childcare for one child? or double that for two! We are lucky in that we can cope on one salary for the time being, but what is the alternative for those who can't get by without two incomes? I can see it being very difficult for some!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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do you have any family nearby who could help out?

LHD

17,002 posts

216 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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This is why i'm a child avoider.

It's crazy, even moreso now that childcare vouchers are being phased out by 2011.


Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mr Will said:
what is the alternative for those who can't get by without two incomes? I can see it being very difficult for some!
Not having kids because they can't afford them.
Grandparents/Sister/nearby close relatives.
Four year career break.

ascayman

13,347 posts

245 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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did you look into the voucher scheme run by most nurseries?

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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ascayman said:
did you look into the voucher scheme run by most nurseries?
Worth about a grand a year, if you're a HRT.

Not really going to make a huge difference.

m3jappa

6,949 posts

247 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Is crazy and one reason why i cant see the gf and myself either getting married or having kids for a very long time. We would have to rely on family looking after the kids.

Mr Will

Original Poster:

13,719 posts

235 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
ascayman said:
did you look into the voucher scheme run by most nurseries?
Worth about a grand a year, if you're a HRT.

Not really going to make a huge difference.
Doesn't make enough of a difference to tip the balance, especially as we are not on HRT.

BoRED S2upid

21,050 posts

269 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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This is exactly why this country is buggered. We (I presume chavs are still banned?). Consider such things before breeding and a lot of us will not have kids until we can afford them, or in the case of my sister your dad retires. The flip side ofcourse have as many as you can and let the state worry about the costs!.

Mars

10,110 posts

243 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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£14K a year? Where the hell are you sending your baby? Our childminder costs us about £700/month.

In fact, even with the breakfast and afternoon clubs that the elder one goes to before and after school, our total monthly bill is less than £900.

GTIR

24,741 posts

295 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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LHD said:
This is why i'm a child avoider.
That, and the court injunction.

hehe

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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LHD said:
It's crazy, even moreso now that childcare vouchers are being phased out by 2011.
I thought Winky u-turned on that?

ascayman

13,347 posts

245 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mr Will said:
Justayellowbadge said:
ascayman said:
did you look into the voucher scheme run by most nurseries?
Worth about a grand a year, if you're a HRT.

Not really going to make a huge difference.
Doesn't make enough of a difference to tip the balance, especially as we are not on HRT.
oh i see, i thought it could save you about £3k or so.

Mr Will

Original Poster:

13,719 posts

235 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mars said:
£14K a year? Where the hell are you sending your baby? Our childminder costs us about £700/month.

In fact, even with the breakfast and afternoon clubs that the elder one goes to before and after school, our total monthly bill is less than £900.
We live in London and would need childcare for over 9 hours per day, 5 days a week. It soon adds up.

Curry Burns

5,620 posts

244 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Just get Paul to either put up your pay, or set-up a PH creche hehe

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Curry Burns said:
Just get Paul to set-up a PH creche hehe
They did, but it got split into the lounge and a bunch of sub forums.

JQ

6,809 posts

208 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mr Will said:
Mars said:
£14K a year? Where the hell are you sending your baby? Our childminder costs us about £700/month.

In fact, even with the breakfast and afternoon clubs that the elder one goes to before and after school, our total monthly bill is less than £900.
We live in London and would need childcare for over 9 hours per day, 5 days a week. It soon adds up.
Wow - my wife has now given up work following the birth of our second. However your numbers do seem a bit high. 5 days a week at our nursery for 52 weeks a year from 7:30am to 6:00pm is £10,400 per annum, includes all food, milk, bottles and nappies. With both parents working the voucher scheme saves £2,500pa, so total cost would be £7,900pa.

marctwo

3,666 posts

289 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mr Will said:
Mars said:
£14K a year? Where the hell are you sending your baby? Our childminder costs us about £700/month.

In fact, even with the breakfast and afternoon clubs that the elder one goes to before and after school, our total monthly bill is less than £900.
We live in London and would need childcare for over 9 hours per day, 5 days a week. It soon adds up.
I live in London too and this kind of cost seems to be the norm. We have Twins so count youself lucky. I'm sure I'll soon get used to a diet of flour and water.

Bill

58,658 posts

284 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mad isn't it? Friends of ours worked out that nursery in London was more expensive than a half decent public schooleek

Tuscanless Ali

2,187 posts

238 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Mr Will said:
We live in London and would need childcare for over 9 hours per day, 5 days a week. It soon adds up.
And that statement doesn't ring alarm bells!

I am a great believer in parents being the main carers, nobody is going to raise your child better than you.

Best option for Mrs Will would be to do evening work whilst you look after the baby, as the baby starts nursery/school then more hours can be done.

The early years really do fly by, make the most of them whilst you can, there will be plenty of other years for working after the child has grown up.