Kimi definitely out of F1 for 2010
Kimi definitely out of F1 for 2010
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fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Definitely no Kimi for next year then!

Joe Saward said:
Kimi Raikkonen will not be in Formula 1 in 2010, Steve Robertson, one of his management, told the Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat on Tuesday that negotiations for a drive with McLaren were over. Raikkonen may try to come back again in 2011 when there will be other drives available, possibly at Red Bull Racing.

Robertson told the newspaper that Raikkonen will do some rallying next year and may race in the Le Mans 24 Hours. The news may mean that Jenson Button’s much-rumoured deal with McLaren is going ahead, with Brawn moving towards Nick Heidfeld and Nico Rosberg, but this is yet to be confirmed.

It is still hard to accept that Mercedes-Benz will be happy to start its new team without a winner in either of the silver cars and with McLaren having the last two World Champions side-by-side. It just does not sense. It is a much wiser and strategically sensible option to have Button and Rosberg at Brawn, with Hamilton and Heidfeld at McLaren.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Gutted, but then again will be great to see if he could crack rally.

On the + side seeing Button and Lewis in the same team will be very interesting.

S

Jasandjules

72,586 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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A bit of a shame, he had some speed, well, when he could be bothered to race.....

fivesixseven8

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Jasandjules said:
A bit of a shame, he had some speed, well, when he could be bothered to race.....
I guess that he just wasn't that bothered due to earning 17M (not sure if thats Dollars or Euros?) just from not racing in F1 next year.
Be interesting to see him in something like LMP1 though.

Now to see how the McLaren/Mercedes driver line ups go. I expect we will know more by the end of the week.

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Go Kimi! Rallying and Le Mans would be fantastic.

A bit dissapointed with his attitude, but thats Kimi.

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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He would of got the seat this year at Red Bull if Webber couldn't resolve his contract with Briatorie. But luckily for him he drove a blinding last two races and bought himself out of his contract to save his seat.

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Flying Toilet said:
He would of got the seat this year at Red Bull if Webber couldn't resolve his contract with Briatorie. But luckily for him he drove a blinding last two races and bought himself out of his contract to save his seat.
confused
where does that all come from?

Marcia

5,099 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Ferarri were stupid for paying him the astronomical amount that he was on last year,Mclaren however are not that stupid.
Am actually pleased that were going to get an all-brit team next seasonclap
it's what alot of people have been dying to see,Lewis V Jensen in the same machinery,bring it on!

fivesixseven8

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256 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Marcia said:
Ferarri were stupid for paying him the astronomical amount that he was on last year,Mclaren however are not that stupid.
Am actually pleased that were going to get an all-brit team next seasonclap
it's what alot of people have been dying to see,Lewis V Jensen in the same machinery,bring it on!
I don't think it's a case of being "stupid" as such. Those contracts were signed before any of the current money issues. As such, the amounts, although large, were in keeping with the current F1 driver market at the time.
Things have changed now. Teams aren't as eager to spend so much. Some drivers have accepted it and others haven't.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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So should he go over the pond and do a year in Indycars for a laugh? He could set up a team with Dario wink

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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llewop said:
Flying Toilet said:
He would of got the seat this year at Red Bull if Webber couldn't resolve his contract with Briatorie. But luckily for him he drove a blinding last two races and bought himself out of his contract to save his seat.
confused
where does that all come from?
What you want me to name my source?

EDIT* Also, by this year I meant 2010, Webber was on the brink as Red Bull didn't want to be linked with Briatorie.

Edited by Flying Toilet on Wednesday 18th November 10:19

aeropilot

40,598 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Ralf Rockefeller said:
Go Kimi! Rallying and Le Mans would be fantastic.

A bit dissapointed with his attitude, but thats Kimi.
I am impressed with his attitude, in that he's a petrolhead and wants to race and race to win, and isn't that bothered whether thats in F1 or not. I find that quite refreshing that he fancies a go at LeMans and other stuff and doesn't see F1 as the be all and end all of motorsport. I actually don't think he was that bothered about staying in F1, probably why he was asking so much. A bit like firms quoting a high price to do a job they don't really want to do, but will do if someone is daft enough to pay the inflated price quoted.


Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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aeropilot said:
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I am impressed with his attitude
Sorry my point came across a bit confused- I meant I was happy to and also impressed with Kimi for not beign affraid to leave F1 hence the "Go Kimi" HOWEVER,
I was dissapointed with his attitude over the last two seasons.


llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Flying Toilet said:
llewop said:
Flying Toilet said:
He would of got the seat this year at Red Bull if Webber couldn't resolve his contract with Briatorie. But luckily for him he drove a blinding last two races and bought himself out of his contract to save his seat.
confused
where does that all come from?
What you want me to name my source?

EDIT* Also, by this year I meant 2010, Webber was on the brink as Red Bull didn't want to be linked with Briatorie.

Edited by Flying Toilet on Wednesday 18th November 10:19
well yeah - most of what you say hasn't been reported anywhere that I've seen!

I know there was the Flav and 'don't touch with the proverbial' FIA ruling (obviously...) but the last I read on it was that Webber had said, roughly; if thats the way it has to be, I'll not bother with a manager then. and that was 2 months ago.

News to me that his late results 'saved' his drive - contract was extended earlier in the year, so curious on your info.

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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llewop said:
Flying Toilet said:
llewop said:
Flying Toilet said:
He would of got the seat this year at Red Bull if Webber couldn't resolve his contract with Briatorie. But luckily for him he drove a blinding last two races and bought himself out of his contract to save his seat.
confused
where does that all come from?
What you want me to name my source?

EDIT* Also, by this year I meant 2010, Webber was on the brink as Red Bull didn't want to be linked with Briatorie.

Edited by Flying Toilet on Wednesday 18th November 10:19
well yeah - most of what you say hasn't been reported anywhere that I've seen!

I know there was the Flav and 'don't touch with the proverbial' FIA ruling (obviously...) but the last I read on it was that Webber had said, roughly; if thats the way it has to be, I'll not bother with a manager then. and that was 2 months ago.

News to me that his late results 'saved' his drive - contract was extended earlier in the year, so curious on your info.
I discussed it in the Silly Season thread with Project 944.

Webber was in quite deep with Flav, Flav funded Webber by paying for his drives early in his career when his sponsorship failed. Webber was also locked in for a good few years with him. It was reported but not the fact that Webbers job was at risk.

I don't know for fact that he 'saved' his drive but it definitely helped his cause and Red Bull helped him escape his contract. Kimi did visit the Red Bull factory.

I am from Milton Keynes, that should give you a clue of my knowledge...

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Flying Toilet and llewop said said:
stuff not directly related to this thread
okay - ta thumbup

hadn't thought about him actually owing Flav cash! eek

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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superkartracer said:
Gutted, but then again will be great to see if he could crack rally.
He's a Finn. If any F1 driver can crack rallying, he can. hehe

Edited by Jungles on Wednesday 18th November 13:13

Asterix

24,438 posts

257 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Yep - he'll be in Ford's new entrant...


BBS-LM

3,978 posts

253 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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fivesixseven8 said:
Definitely no Kimi for next year then!

Joe Saward said:
Kimi Raikkonen will not be in Formula 1 in 2010, Steve Robertson, one of his management, told the Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat on Tuesday that negotiations for a drive with McLaren were over. Raikkonen may try to come back again in 2011 when there will be other drives available, possibly at Red Bull Racing.

Robertson told the newspaper that Raikkonen will do some rallying next year and may race in the Le Mans 24 Hours. The news may mean that Jenson Button’s much-rumoured deal with McLaren is going ahead, with Brawn moving towards Nick Heidfeld and Nico Rosberg, but this is yet to be confirmed.

It is still hard to accept that Mercedes-Benz will be happy to start its new team without a winner in either of the silver cars and with McLaren having the last two World Champions side-by-side. It just does not sense. It is a much wiser and strategically sensible option to have Button and Rosberg at Brawn, with Hamilton and Heidfeld at McLaren.
I'm not surprised really, Kimi just looked fed up with F1 and it's politics. If you ask me it's Kimi that got the best deal in or out of F1 at the moment, here's £20m to take a year off and do what you want, hahahahaha, class move.

eastlmark

1,656 posts

236 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Maybe he should do some F3 and GP2 seeing as he skipped it at the time and went to F1 from something like Formula Renault.