Recommend A Crash Helmet?
Recommend A Crash Helmet?
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Two Stallions

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1,329 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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I'm looking to buy a new full face crash helmet to replace my old one which has seen better days. It will mainly only be used for tin-top car track days, maybe with the odd blat in an open top car, any recommendations with budget circa £200?

TIA

Steve748

8,542 posts

208 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Go to a helmet shop and try them on as head/helmet shapes differ. The only way to by a lid IMO smile

phatgixer

4,988 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Best value by a mile are motorcycle helmets. Great spec and due to economies of scale, around 30% the cost of overpriced car racing stuff.

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

242 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Two Stallions said:
I'm looking to buy a new full face crash helmet to replace my old one which has seen better days. It will mainly only be used for tin-top car track days, maybe with the odd blat in an open top car, any recommendations with budget circa £200?

TIA
Have a look at www.hedtec.co.uk Ed Moore that runs Motorsport Events sells them, if you are interested, give him a call on 07971 407479. He is the sole distributor in the UK I think.

HTH

Two Stallions

Original Poster:

1,329 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Thanks for your replies, much appreciated.

smile

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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ginettajoe said:
Two Stallions said:
I'm looking to buy a new full face crash helmet to replace my old one which has seen better days. It will mainly only be used for tin-top car track days, maybe with the odd blat in an open top car, any recommendations with budget circa £200?

TIA
Have a look at www.hedtec.co.uk Ed Moore that runs Motorsport Events sells them, if you are interested, give him a call on 07971 407479. He is the sole distributor in the UK I think.

HTH
There was a thread on these before. Nothing bad/good was said as nobody had tried one yet. Have you had your hands on one Ginettajoe?

AshVX220

5,965 posts

214 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Hi Everyone,
I'm actually having the same dilemma, I'll be doing a few trackdays from now on and am looking for a helmet that won't break the bank. Are there certain standards that they should adhere to in order to be allowed on a trackday? I've seen some which are extremely cheap (<£50), surely the EC Standard they meet isn't good enough is it?
Looking forward to meeting some of you at track days next year. smile

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Future Proof. You want a red sticker, or SA2005. Mine has a Blue sticker (not fire resistant), and rumor has it will eventually not be enough for trackdays.



Suffice to say the Hedtec helmet above meets all the standards you could want...but is very cheap.

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

242 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Munter said:
ginettajoe said:
Two Stallions said:
I'm looking to buy a new full face crash helmet to replace my old one which has seen better days. It will mainly only be used for tin-top car track days, maybe with the odd blat in an open top car, any recommendations with budget circa £200?

TIA
Have a look at www.hedtec.co.uk Ed Moore that runs Motorsport Events sells them, if you are interested, give him a call on 07971 407479. He is the sole distributor in the UK I think

HTH
There was a thread on these before. Nothing bad/good was said as nobody had tried one yet. Have you had your hands on one Ginettajoe?
Hi, no I haven't actually seen one, and the helmets that were discussed on here a little while ago were another one I think, although the hedtec one has been mentioned. All I can say is that anyone that has done any of Motorsport Events Airfield days or trackdays at Castle Coombe will vouch for Ed. He isn't going to supply something that is inferior, because his reputation would have a lot to lose generally. He has been instructing for longer than me even!!! Well I think he has!!!coollaugh

Edited by ginettajoe on Thursday 19th November 22:44

GC8

19,910 posts

214 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Munter said:
Future Proof. You want a red sticker, or SA2005. Mine has a Blue sticker (not fire resistant), and rumor has it will eventually not be enough for trackdays.



Suffice to say the Hedtec helmet above meets all the standards you could want...but is very cheap.
If any venue or organiser does go ahead with this rather foolish proposition, then itll cost them dear. Wtf would they insist on a fireproof lining in an otherwise ientical helmet, when people dont have to wear any other fireproof clothing (youre lucky if you get asked to roll your sleeves down)? When youre already wearing a hard hat you need to be more concerned about the rest of your jeans and tshirt covered body, I think.....

AshVX220

5,965 posts

214 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Thanks Munter,
as mentioned if the organisers/circuit owners start to ge to tight on restrictions it will have a negative effect on business I'm sure.

GC8

19,910 posts

214 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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One further point: since the EU interfered all helmets sold for road use have to meet ECE22.05. Before this helmets were tested to either BS6658-A or BS6658-B. The majority of helmets sold met the higher 'A' standard, which would qualify for an MSA sticker (and still will until the end of the year). The newer fireproof standard -BS6658-A/FR- is essentially a TypeA helmet with a Nomex liner.

Back to the EU: because of their meddling and their pushing an inferior testing standard onto us, its now far harder to find a suitable helmet, because Arai & Shoei are having to sell ECE22.05 marked helmets. Their helmets are still more than good enough to pass the British Standard tests of course, but theyre only being tested to. and carrying, the ECE approval.

Unfortunately this makes it easier for the ill-informed to deride 'bike helmets' as ECE22.05 lumps in all manner of helmets, from the finest Arais to the poorest thermoplastic rubbish aimed at pizza delivery riders.

One further point: the MSA's foolish removal of 'National' approval for Type-A helmets has forced a lot of people to move from excellent Arai & Shoei helmets, into cheap Chinese manufactured kit: and whilst its approved to the Snell 2005 standard, I know that Id trade the Nomex lining for Japanese Arai quality that I trust, over a pointless piece material EVERY time, should it all go wrong.....

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

263 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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as mentioned previously but maybe not strongly enough:

The best helmet to get is the one that fits best.

You can spend relatively little or ridiculously huge amounts, but if it doesnt fit well then it is a waste of money. Because different helmet manufacturers work to different "normal" shaped heads that means you really do have to go to a shop and try a number of them on to find the best one for you.

hoyin

1,233 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Bummer so I have a Schuberth R1 which meets the ECE22.05 regs.

Does this mean I cannot use it for a trackday?

GC8

19,910 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Does it have an ACU Gold sticker on? If so then probably, as only the BS6658-A quality helmets will carry this.

hoyin

1,233 posts

261 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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nope only the EC regs ... bummer!!!!!!!!!

£340 down the drain. Anyone want to buy a brand new Schuberth R1 helmet - never used?

GC8

19,910 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Id be contacting the ACU before I binned it, personally.

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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I doubt you will have any problem using it on trackdays. I have never had helmets checked on any trackday I have been to.

I know that there has been rumour of the possibility that regulations may be enforced in the future, but I have not seen any evidence that it is anything other than a rumour. And as others have said it would be a very big step for any trackday company to take as you currently need no more protection than a £20 bike helmet, some jeans and a shirt.

Has anyone heard anything even remotely like official confirmation of an increase in safety regulations?

edmooreuk

13 posts

295 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Ed here from Motorsport Events the suppliers of Hedtec helmets. I very rarely post on forums, but just wanted to let everyone know that our helmets are not related to other similarly priced helmets on the market. We are extremely proud of Hedtec helmets and know that they are as good as other products costing 3-4 times as much. We must make it clear that whilst we will not comment on comparisons to rival products, we feel extremely confident in the quality of the product we are selling. If you want to ask any questions please email me at info@hedtec.co.uk and come and see us at the Autosport Show stand 6840 in Hall 6. A Happy New Year to everyone!