Rolling road near west London??
Rolling road near west London??
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M12maniac

Original Poster:

120 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Just bought....and started a love affair with a Noble M12 GTO 3.....it's frickin amazing. Can anyone suggest a good rolling road for tweaking the engine setup? I'd like to make sure it's all working as it should be before I take it on the track.

Many thanks, and hope you are enjoying the Noble experience as much as me!

mr-manners

185 posts

214 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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depends on whether your ecu is encripted if so theres only two that are allowed to tune it!

think it was just later cars so most can be tuned by tom dick or indeed harry?


ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Chat to Yellowshed. The location will be here http://www.tracknroad.com/ which shouldn't be too far for you.

M12maniac

Original Poster:

120 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Hopefully I've got an accessable cpu on my M12....

Good old Essex boys eh! Those Track N Road boys look like they know how to tune....a little bit smile

Think I'll be heading there before a trip trackside , thanks a million.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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there are quite a few near west london

Surrey Rolling Road
Paramount Performance
Novatech Nt-r
Garage Slipstream
Motoworx

drop me a line if you want to find one near your postcode

M12maniac

Original Poster:

120 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Thanks for the choice of all those R-Roads!

I've heard Surrey Rolling roads don't do adjustments or tweaking, just printouts. Is there any of those suggested you recommend for that, I don't mind driving a little further afield....

M12maniac

Original Poster:

120 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I mean, a place that does adjustments as well as printouts.......cheers

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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mr-manners said:
depends on whether your ecu is encripted if so theres only two that are allowed to tune it!

think it was just later cars so most can be tuned by tom dick or indeed harry?
AFAIK all of the MBE ECUs are locked.

M400 NBL

3,552 posts

241 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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I used to use Middlesex Tuning in Harrow to tune my old Pug 205 Mi16.

Maybe not the ideal suggestion but another nonetheless.

A tuner there called Dave managed to extract more power and made it smoother too... something nobody else seemed to be able to do on this conversion on carbs, back in 1996.
http://www.middlesextuningcentre.co.uk/index.htm

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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M12maniac said:
Thanks for the choice of all those R-Roads!

I've heard Surrey Rolling roads don't do adjustments or tweaking, just printouts. Is there any of those suggested you recommend for that, I don't mind driving a little further afield....
Gadge sells Dyno Dynamics rolling roads, they are all customers of his, as Phil said Yellowshead has a lot of very specific Noble experience and will very easily recognise any issues

don kalmar union

358 posts

251 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Power Engineering in Uxbridge have a very new RR and excellent, capable staff who will spend as much time as you need making suggestions, adjustments etc.

If you car has an BOD socket then a trip to Marlin Motorsport in Bletchley might be even more rewarding as they have a MAHA machine which is far superior to most of those used by those mentioned here and can log a large number of readings from the OBD at 100rpm intervals as they have MAHA's very latest software.

Regards, Don.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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don kalmar union said:
Power Engineering in Uxbridge have a very new RR and excellent, capable staff who will spend as much time as you need making suggestions, adjustments etc.

If you car has an BOD socket then a trip to Marlin Motorsport in Bletchley might be even more rewarding as they have a MAHA machine which is far superior to most of those used by those mentioned here and can log a large number of readings from the OBD at 100rpm intervals as they have MAHA's very latest software.

Regards, Don.
Yeah, but unless they have the codes to unlock the Noble ECU, which they won't, they'll just be printing a graph.

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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don kalmar union said:
Power Engineering in Uxbridge have a very new RR and excellent, capable staff who will spend as much time as you need making suggestions, adjustments etc.

If you car has an BOD socket then a trip to Marlin Motorsport in Bletchley might be even more rewarding as they have a MAHA machine which is far superior to most of those used by those mentioned here and can log a large number of readings from the OBD at 100rpm intervals as they have MAHA's very latest software.

Regards, Don.
Noble ECU doesn't have an OBD port.

steveobes

632 posts

208 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Yellowshed knows noble mapping like no other

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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"If you car has an BOD socket then a trip to Marlin Motorsport in Bletchley might be even more rewarding as they have a MAHA machine which is far superior to most of those used by those mentioned here and can log a large number of readings from the OBD at 100rpm intervals as they have MAHA's very latest software."


most of the Dyno's i mentioned will record from the ODBII port, however the Noble does not transmit ODBII

(the Dyno's at Power Engineering and Torque of the Devil will both Read over 2400 hp at the wheels !)

mr-manners

185 posts

214 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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why is it that only certain tuners have the codes to unlock the encripted ones?i pressume all of our nobles are out of warranty so why would noble care?never expected to be told what i can do or rather where i can do! with a car i have spent my hard earned on rolleyes is this actually legal?

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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mr-manners said:
why is it that only certain tuners have the codes to unlock the encripted ones?i pressume all of our nobles are out of warranty so why would noble care?never expected to be told what i can do or rather where i can do! with a car i have spent my hard earned on rolleyes is this actually legal?
Just because your iPod is old doesn't mean Apple have to give you the source code.

mr-manners

185 posts

214 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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ok they dont have to but why wouldnt they what do they stand to lose?

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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mr-manners said:
ok they dont have to but why wouldnt they what do they stand to lose?
I may be wrong, but i think they can buy the software and licence from Noble.



Edited by Adrian W on Monday 23 November 08:39

C&C

3,913 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Regardless of the situation around who can and cannot access the ECU, in answer to the original question requesting recommendations for RR and mapping, I will also add my wholehearted recommendation for Yellowshed.
After getting an exhaust and other bits done, I spoke to Trevor and ended up meeting him down at Track n Road. Several hours later the car was running perfectly, and I went home happy in the knowledge that the boost etc was all set up to "safe" settings (he corrected an overboost issue, set max to under 1 bar and ensured at higher revs the boost reduced slightly). It was a bonus that the end result was very respectable power/torque figures.
Basically I was very impressed with their expertise, and the time and effort they put in. Could not fault the whole experience, and the car has been running great since then. I also know Trevor has mapped many many Nobles, knows them inside out, and you cannot go wrong getting your P&J checked out by him.