People Who Collect Money for Charity
People Who Collect Money for Charity
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Glassman

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24,967 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Seems they've identified Champions League football games as a good way of filling their cash buckets.

Fine.

Carry on.

But why do they have to stand in the way? If they stood to one side, I'll make my own mind up what I do about their 'plea' for "children... it's for children!"

Coming out of Finsbury Park Station this evening, I had two stand right in front of me as if they were bouncers... then, walking up to the stadium, I had my path blocked by more collectors for various charities.

Walking up the steps towards the bridge, there was a wall of charity collectors across the landing.

Are they working on a 'good luck' principle/superstition? (none to be seen after game... which was won 2-0).

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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corrr, you've become a right GOM

Glassman

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24,967 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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biggrin

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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I watched an episode of Scrubs yesterday and there was an exchange between Dr Cox and a guy "collecting for AIDS research" which seemed apt (and made me laugh):

AIDS Worker: Excuse me, could you spare a few minutes for AIDS research?
Dr. Cox: Yes, I can, but I'm not sure how much we'll get done. I'll tell you what, we'll go over there and brainstorm while we wolf down these sandwiches.


jshell

12,078 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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It's no longer voluteers though, these collectors are often now on a % of the take...

Glassman

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24,967 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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jshell said:
It's no longer voluteers though, these collectors are often now on a % of the take...
Looking at:

a) the type of people collecting last night

and

b) how 'in your face' they were,

I'm not surprised.

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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jshell said:
It's no longer voluteers though, these collectors are often now on a % of the take...
In the case of football matches, operating an army of tin-shakers is mainly an activity of the larger charities and would be paid or commission.

However, it is still mainly volunteers who do this for a cause they are particularly concerned with, especially for 'local' charities such as hospices etc.

I would suggest that it's the football ground you should be directing your complaint to if it's spoiling your enjoyment, not the charity, many are really suffering in the recession and using every means available to them.

Glassman

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24,967 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
jshell said:
It's no longer voluteers though, these collectors are often now on a % of the take...
In the case of football matches, operating an army of tin-shakers is mainly an activity of the larger charities and would be paid or commission.

However, it is still mainly volunteers who do this for a cause they are particularly concerned with, especially for 'local' charities such as hospices etc.

I would suggest that it's the football ground you should be directing your complaint to if it's spoiling your enjoyment, not the charity, many are really suffering in the recession and using every means available to them.
Fair point, but apart from the old boy dressed in Salvation Army gear, all I know about the other charities is they were collecting, "for the children..."

In other words, total blank; not interested.

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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If "Charity" comes to you, it is begging - should it be encouraged?

jshell

12,078 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
jshell said:
It's no longer voluteers though, these collectors are often now on a % of the take...
In the case of football matches, operating an army of tin-shakers is mainly an activity of the larger charities and would be paid or commission.

However, it is still mainly volunteers who do this for a cause they are particularly concerned with, especially for 'local' charities such as hospices etc.

I would suggest that it's the football ground you should be directing your complaint to if it's spoiling your enjoyment, not the charity, many are really suffering in the recession and using every means available to them.
Doesn't bother me and you couldn't drag me to a football ghey fest match if you tried, but me old man was director of a charity for a while when the previous director buggered off with the loot and the secretary. It was only then that I found out that a lot of collectors are paid per earnings.

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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PPPPPP said:
If "Charity" comes to you, it is begging - should it be encouraged?
If charity didn't communicate with me to remind me of their existence I would forget, wrapped up in my self-centred little daily life...... and I don't mind being reminded, I don't mind having my conscience pricked and I am happy to support organisations that do incredible work with groups who have no voice and no government funding or profitable income streams.

(I do object to being tripped up/acosted walking down the street or cold called at my home).... and that is what gives charities and fundraisers a bad name.

Edited by parakitaMol. on Wednesday 25th November 09:13

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Really? I think it's down to how it's operated... (possibly down to the the social skills of the collector and also how well the charity briefs and trains them) because I've been in pubs hosting comic relief events and there's a really good atmosphere and everyone seems happy to donate.

I've been asked in a restaurant before they were thrown out by the staff and it simply made me furious!

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
I've been in pubs hosting comic relief events and there's a really good atmosphere and everyone seems happy to donate.

I've been asked in a restaurant before they were thrown out by the staff and it simply made me furious!
Someone shaking a tin at you while you are having a quiet drink is far closer to the latter than the former.

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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I agree. Which is exactly what I meant by the first part of the post which you didn't quote. Some have poor social skills (and therefore think it's ok to do that) and some are not given training by the organisation.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
I've been asked in a restaurant before they were thrown out by the staff and it simply made me furious!
furious that they were thrown out or furious that you were chugged whilst having dinner?

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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sleep envy said:
parakitaMol. said:
I've been asked in a restaurant before they were thrown out by the staff and it simply made me furious!
furious that they were thrown out or furious that you were chugged whilst having dinner?
Furious they weren't punched quite hard before being thrown out.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
I agree. Which is exactly what I meant by the first part of the post which you didn't quote. Some have poor social skills (and therefore think it's ok to do that) and some are not given training by the organisation.
No, the difference was one was an organized charity event. Slightly disingenuous to compare that to a 'chugger'.

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Wednesday 25th November 09:31

f-fuxake

1,813 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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I helped out in a bucket collection at Anfield last Saturday for the local branch of the White Ribbon Campaign (Go Google!). We were all volunteers and raised an invaluable £1200 for the charity which has no formal funding. No one got paid so generalisations posted are not accurate.
Personally I only donate to local causes so you know your money is going direct to those who need it.

(I once worked for a national charity and booked a £19 Travelodge room for a conference in London. I was told to leave that as I was booked in a £126 a night room close to Euston!, ended up giving the Travelodge room to a mate. Figure it out for yourself.)

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
parakitaMol. said:
I agree. Which is exactly what I meant by the first part of the post which you didn't quote. Some have poor social skills (and therefore think it's ok to do that) and some are not given training by the organisation.
No, the difference was one was an organized charity event. Slightly disingenuous to compare that to a 'chugger'.

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Wednesday 25th November 09:31
I didn't intend to compare an event to a chugger. I can tell the difference. I intended to compare the approach and critisise some of the large numbers of 'charity collectors' with no social skills who force themselves upon people in a number of inappropriate situations.

Thank you for pointing out my lack of clarity. I trust this is sufficiently well articulated now.

CrashTD

1,788 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Cries to save the children are better than the usual " ash,ash,skunk " which you hear emanating from Fins Park Station.