Maserati GranTurismo S - advice ????
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I'm after a GranTurismo S to replace the cooking version used as the daily smoke.
GranTurismo S Owners (or anyone in the know).....
MC Sportshift gearbox or ZF Auto gearbox?
Advice is saying MC Sportshift thus far, but I have seen a nice one with the ZF Auto??
What are the differences?
I want a sportier rive than the cooking GT, but something that is just as happy in Auto mode farting around in Town/Traffic etc
TIA
GranTurismo S Owners (or anyone in the know).....
MC Sportshift gearbox or ZF Auto gearbox?
Advice is saying MC Sportshift thus far, but I have seen a nice one with the ZF Auto??
What are the differences?
I want a sportier rive than the cooking GT, but something that is just as happy in Auto mode farting around in Town/Traffic etc
TIA
Hi
If you want a sportier drive then the MC shift is for you! I'm so impressed with it. The only other flappy gearbox I've had was a CSL, that was good but this is even better. It's an epic car, go for it! The auto function isn't great to be honest though but how hard is it to shift with the paddles.
And what's a cooking version?
If you want a sportier drive then the MC shift is for you! I'm so impressed with it. The only other flappy gearbox I've had was a CSL, that was good but this is even better. It's an epic car, go for it! The auto function isn't great to be honest though but how hard is it to shift with the paddles.
And what's a cooking version?
I would definately say the GTS Cambiocorsa after having heard one the other day at Dick Lovett Swindon. It was the best exhaust note I have heard in a long time. The gearbox in the GTS Cambio was also extremely responsive and reminded me of the 430. It has the same engine as the Auto, but I would imagine the auto is not as responsive when pushing the car on. The Auto is only .1 of a second behind the Cambio's 0 to 60mph, but max torque sees it at 7,200 rpm against the Cambio's 7,500 rpm. I was also told that the exhaust kicks in as soon as you press the sport button on the Cambio, but it only changes at around 3,000 rpm on the Auto. The auto is a true ZF with a torque converter so will obviously be smoother. However, I was impressed with the Cambio in auto mode although you do need to feather the throttle to gain a smoother change.
The other difference is the look of both cars. The cambio has dark front lenses, extended side skirts, two oval pipes and a boot lid spoiler that gives it a more purposeful look. The Auto has clear lenses, four pipes and only slight side skirts. It looks very similar to the standard GT.
The other difference is the look of both cars. The cambio has dark front lenses, extended side skirts, two oval pipes and a boot lid spoiler that gives it a more purposeful look. The Auto has clear lenses, four pipes and only slight side skirts. It looks very similar to the standard GT.
my opinion on the GT-S was that whilst it sounds quite extraordinary it drove to me rather like a normal car - i wasnt particularly moved by it. i didnt think a new gt-s was worth the 30k over a used gt. I wanted to really like it - its the best looking car around - and i have had 4 masers before. i found the standard gt a bit slow feeling. for me i would go for the gt-s auto but as the previous poster said, there are a few differences the auto version is a bit watered down. they also seem to be holding their value rather well, all versions.
Small point but the GT S does not have the Cambiocorsa box which is a different transmission entirely. Instead it uses the F1 box from Ferrari with the superfast shift programme from the 599GTB when sport mode is engaged. Maserati have simply redesignated this transmission as the MC (Maserati Corsa) shift.
Having driven both, the MC-Shift (formerly Cambiocorsa & Duoselect) is alot better than it's previous incarnations, but is still tricky for city parking and reversing etc. If the car is for town use I would settle for the Auto box with paddles. Furthermore, from past experience, the clutches take a real effort to balance on the F1 shifters, and not all Maser dealers are up to the task. I believe the offending issue is normally the clutch 'kiss' point. That won't be an issue on the auto cars.
F1 gearbox does clunk around a bit sometimes especially in slow or stop start traffic and you have to be especially gentle when th car is cold. However it does warm up quite quickly and the heat from the engine is enough to keep you warm when standing next to it during winter time!
My girlfriend drives it the most and the car jerks quite a bit from cold (probably the clutch trying to engage and disengage). I don't know if this is programming as it only takes about 20 metres of driving to stabilise it. If for pottering around town i think a normal auto would be okay but the F1 box does give a bit more control over the car.
My girlfriend drives it the most and the car jerks quite a bit from cold (probably the clutch trying to engage and disengage). I don't know if this is programming as it only takes about 20 metres of driving to stabilise it. If for pottering around town i think a normal auto would be okay but the F1 box does give a bit more control over the car.
I've had a Granturismo 4.2 Auto and now have a 4.7 S Automatic. I've also driven the GTS MC Shift for 3 days so i have good experience of all three models
Initially the 4.7 MC shift is a real blast in Sport Mode but i do travel in and out of London and it can be jerky to park and slow speed manouvre. It's auto mode was pretty poor too. I also noticed during warm up the clutch bite was not very precise.
The GTS Auto ticks all my boxes. Very smooth but also changes gear surprising quickly in Sport mode. The exhaust vave opens at 3000rpm in Sport mode and whilst not quite as loud as the MC shift i would say it's 80% as loud, still pops and crackles on overrun and makes a lovely blip on downshifts. Believe me, the noise turns heads! The real bonus for me is that you can drive it in Sport all the time without it getting tiring and as 90% of my driving is more relaxed it suits me perfectly with the knowledge that it's still an animal when i want it to be!
Initially the 4.7 MC shift is a real blast in Sport Mode but i do travel in and out of London and it can be jerky to park and slow speed manouvre. It's auto mode was pretty poor too. I also noticed during warm up the clutch bite was not very precise.
The GTS Auto ticks all my boxes. Very smooth but also changes gear surprising quickly in Sport mode. The exhaust vave opens at 3000rpm in Sport mode and whilst not quite as loud as the MC shift i would say it's 80% as loud, still pops and crackles on overrun and makes a lovely blip on downshifts. Believe me, the noise turns heads! The real bonus for me is that you can drive it in Sport all the time without it getting tiring and as 90% of my driving is more relaxed it suits me perfectly with the knowledge that it's still an animal when i want it to be!
Have owned a GT-S MC-Shift for 4 months now and live in London, so know the problems of using this 'box in what is not its natuaral environment. Yes it does have problems (as does a torque converter auto), 3 point turns and parallel parking take some getting used to and it does not like crawling in traffic up a hill and with a cold start the revs are higher making the speed when engaging higher, which is not ideal if parked on the side of a road boxed in.
Having said all of the above, I would have the MC-Shift over the Auto every day. It has the instant throttle response you simply do not get from an auto, the full bore sports shifts have to be experienced to be believed and once you have learnt how to drive it, most of the above issues are less of a problem. Probably about 50% of the time I have the sport button off and the car is civilised and easy to drive, changes being smooth and progress is relatively unobtrusive, or as much as it ever can be for a bright blue Maserati! But when you want to spice things up, the Sport button is only a push away.
If you are after a car with a bit more punch than the ordinary GT but still want a comfortable relaxed drive and will not be looking for a sports car substitute, the Auto makes a great case for itself and is rightly popular. However, if there are times when you want something to respond in a more sporting manner, not to mention look more sporting, then the MC-Shift will not disappoint.
Having said all of the above, I would have the MC-Shift over the Auto every day. It has the instant throttle response you simply do not get from an auto, the full bore sports shifts have to be experienced to be believed and once you have learnt how to drive it, most of the above issues are less of a problem. Probably about 50% of the time I have the sport button off and the car is civilised and easy to drive, changes being smooth and progress is relatively unobtrusive, or as much as it ever can be for a bright blue Maserati! But when you want to spice things up, the Sport button is only a push away.
If you are after a car with a bit more punch than the ordinary GT but still want a comfortable relaxed drive and will not be looking for a sports car substitute, the Auto makes a great case for itself and is rightly popular. However, if there are times when you want something to respond in a more sporting manner, not to mention look more sporting, then the MC-Shift will not disappoint.
runway78 said:
Having driven both, the MC-Shift (formerly Cambiocorsa & Duoselect) is alot better than it's previous incarnations, but is still tricky for city parking and reversing etc. If the car is for town use I would settle for the Auto box with paddles. Furthermore, from past experience, the clutches take a real effort to balance on the F1 shifters, and not all Maser dealers are up to the task. I believe the offending issue is normally the clutch 'kiss' point. That won't be an issue on the auto cars.
The kiss point is simply set with the SD3 diagnostic computer. All it basically is(the kiss point) is the point were the two plates make contact.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff