F16 wing movements
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fred flange

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478 posts

244 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Big fan of american chopper here(for my sins)anyway the 2 leading mechanics went up in f16s as part of a program and one of the jets pulled 9g!! the wing seems to move a hell of alot.Is this normal and what sort of force can they take?
i have found the clip here, http://www.casttv.com/shows/american-chopper/junio... go to 33.25 on the search bar to see it.

Eric Mc

124,756 posts

288 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Most aircarft are designed to have some flex in their wings. You should see the bend on an Airbus A340!

RizzoTheRat

28,011 posts

215 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
You should see the bend on an Airbus A340!
Tested to something like 4 or 5 meters if I remember correctly. On composite gliders you can see the wing bounce up and down through every bit of turbulance, and on a winch launch they bend up a hell of a long way due to the steep angle of attack.

B-52 is the amusing one though, the wing takes off quite a long time before the rest of the aircraft.

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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If they didn't bend they'd snap.... Always amusing when nervous flyers can see the wing bend, or when they can see "through" it as all the flaps and whatnot are deployed coming in to land.

tegwin

1,682 posts

229 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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If you think thats bad, have you seen the bend on a helicopter blade? Droop when switched off and almighty coning when under load...


Mr Dave

3,233 posts

218 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Watch the wing bending tests on youtube of the Boeings. Quite impressive really and quite a big bang whne it all lets go.

DrTre

12,957 posts

255 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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I remember reading (maybe incorrectly) a 747 wingtip flexes by up to 8m?

adam85

1,264 posts

214 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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DrTre said:
I remember reading (maybe incorrectly) a 747 wingtip flexes by up to 8m?
Certainly seems that way, as the whole lot disappears from view if you happen to be sitting in the middle rows!

central

16,745 posts

240 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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speedtwelve

3,533 posts

296 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Next time you're on an airliner with podded engines, 737, Airbus, whatever, you'll see that the engine pylons have quite a bit of flex dialled in as well. Watch those engine pods shimmying from side to side as you fly through turbulence, great for nervous flyers.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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I think from memory (on the fatigue rig) the tornado wings go 1 meter at a simulated 9g....

eccles

14,175 posts

245 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Some aircraft pump the fuel outboard on the wings to stop wing flex during flight to reduce fatigue damage.

RizzoTheRat

28,011 posts

215 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Also one of the advantages the 707 had over the Comet in the early days of jet transport. Hanging the engines off the wings reduces the bending moment on the wings meaning they can be lighter on the 707 than the Comet, with the engines burried in the wingroot.

Eric Mc

124,756 posts

288 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Boeing first used this principle on their B-47 boomber. Hard to believe the specification dates from 1943 and it first flew in 1947.


speedtwelve

3,533 posts

296 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Hard to imagine that 50 years ago there were nuclear-armed B47s standing on alert about a mile away out my living room window. It's a country park now! I live just down the hill from Greenham Common.

Eric Mc

124,756 posts

288 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Went to quite a few airshows there.

eccles

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245 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Went to quite a few airshows there.
Same here, was quite a trek from south wales in a battered old Maxi with my dad. I've still got a big packet of photos from the 1983 one.

Eric Mc

124,756 posts

288 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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I used to make special trips from Ireland (1976, 77,79 and 80).

eccles

14,175 posts

245 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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They were the glory days of the airshow scene to me, money seemed no object and aircraft came from all over the world, also in those days you still had quite a number of older aircraft types in service along side the new stuff so had quite a cross section.

Eric Mc

124,756 posts

288 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Yep - lots of piston power still around - Nord Noratlas, C-118, Lockheed Neptune, Canadair Argus etc.