VR6 engined Elsie
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kambites

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70,728 posts

244 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Anyone know anything about this car?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1325579.htm

I've often wondered if the VR6 lump would fit and it would seem that the answer is yes, albeit at the expense of the boot. I'd be interested to know what it's done to the weight and handling.

Justin S

3,658 posts

284 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Met Simon who built it and goes well enough, sounds good. He has converted to fly by wire throttle. Fits well, but I think you will loose the boot. Company name is JSD and are based near Reading. He has just started going Rotrex conversions for Toyota engines too..............

bogie

16,896 posts

295 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPKbnpgDh84

a few vids on youtube ...seems to go ok wink

Boggy

4,603 posts

258 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Very patient track day driving too, impressed! I think he could have passed most of those Porsches if he’d really tried, quality track day Car

Boggy

kambites

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70,728 posts

244 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Is he planning on offering the conversion as a product for existing customers' cars?

cyberface

12,214 posts

280 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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I'd love an Exige / Elise with more than 4 cylinders for the sound... but that picture makes it look like the block is canted over so the head's in the boot! I can't think of a worse weight distribution... all that weight up high and far back would make it interesting in the wrong way to drive...

Justin S

3,658 posts

284 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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kambites said:
Is he planning on offering the conversion as a product for existing customers' cars?
Yes, that is the idea...............this car is a developement mule, which he needs to sell as his has others too.............

bogie

16,896 posts

295 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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kambites said:
Is he planning on offering the conversion as a product for existing customers' cars?
yes, its advertised on PH classifieds - £12.5K for 300bhp V6 engine

Jam Spavlin

909 posts

208 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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JSD Racetech Ltd said:
breaded brake & clutch hoses
Am I just not using my loaf or is this a new coating for brake lines?

mogg

385 posts

281 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Am I correct in thinking that this conversion - £12.5k for 300bhp V6 - is only really viable if you have a relatively low bhp car (under 200bhp say). Otherwise, if you have say a 240 bhp Exige S, wouldn't you go for something like the 300bhp conversion from Hanger 111 for £5k ?

Thanks

John D.

20,217 posts

232 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Jam Spavlin said:
JSD Racetech Ltd said:
breaded brake & clutch hoses
Am I just not using my loaf or is this a new coating for brake lines?
laugh


steve06

756 posts

221 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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the extra weight has to effect the handling... surely a supercharged K20 is a better option?

kambites

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244 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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steve06 said:
the extra weight has to effect the handling... surely a supercharged K20 is a better option?
That was my thinking. I'd put up with slightly degraded handling for the noise, but I suspect the difference might be more than "slight".

steve06

756 posts

221 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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kambites said:
That was my thinking. I'd put up with slightly degraded handling for the noise, but I suspect the difference might be more than "slight".
that's the thing, sounds good but that's not gonna make you feel better when your arse swings in front out you as you hurl towards the armco! biggrin

bencollins

3,558 posts

228 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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never understood this quest for more cylinders, I couldnt really give a toss about the rumble it makes.
more power i can understand from a devils advocate point of view.
and more power is best obtained by charging.

Mclovin

1,679 posts

221 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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i bet this bloke has had a thousand messages asking him how much it weighs lol....

cyberface

12,214 posts

280 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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bencollins said:
never understood this quest for more cylinders, I couldnt really give a toss about the rumble it makes.
more power i can understand from a devils advocate point of view.
and more power is best obtained by charging.
well a lot of petrolheads gain as much pleasure from the sound of a great-sounding engine as they do from raw speed... After all, away from the track, all you can really enjoy is the noise in a lot of cases.

And inline fours tend to make crap noises IMO, though there are exceptions and I'm sure to get jumped on now smile

bogie

16,896 posts

295 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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there has been a huge thread running on it since its inception a loooong time ago on the "Engine conversions" forum of SELOC, and yes, weight has come up from time to time wink

peter450

1,650 posts

256 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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cyberface said:
bencollins said:
never understood this quest for more cylinders, I couldnt really give a toss about the rumble it makes.
more power i can understand from a devils advocate point of view.
and more power is best obtained by charging.
well a lot of petrolheads gain as much pleasure from the sound of a great-sounding engine as they do from raw speed... After all, away from the track, all you can really enjoy is the noise in a lot of cases.

And inline fours tend to make crap noises IMO, though there are exceptions and I'm sure to get jumped on now smile
A lot, i'd say the vast majority, otherwise all these multi-cylinder performance cars would be using 4 pot buzz box's

4 pots are chosen on economy grounds, no shame in it, but thats the honest truth, there not as pleasing as straight/V6's or any other multi-cylindered engine, which are far more charismatic forms or locomotive power, i have a 4 pot myself, and it's nice but deep down i can't help but wish the cylinder count was any number between 6 and 12

Edited by peter450 on Friday 27th November 20:04

John D.

20,217 posts

232 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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God that things sounds fantastic! I too am dubious as to the wisdom of having that big a lump in the back of an Elise. But the noise cloud9

Top marks for putting it together thumbup