Candles in the Wind
Candles in the Wind
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Jill450se

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139 posts

206 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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That's four candles headlights...positively US they are too

Now that the dark evenings are here taking the Wedge out is a liability to me and other road users, not only is it difficult to see where I've pointed the car to go but I also worry about others being unable to see me approaching forwards or backwards as I'm not too sure myself which way is whateek

I've done the usual search thingy but to no avail...

So can you chaps help me out and suggest a idea for more fork handles smile

Thanks J

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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First thing to check is whether the silvering inside the lens is all tarnished and brown. If it is then it'll absorb most of the light. If so time to get new lenses.

Then check the connections to the bulbs, and the wiring, earths too, make sure you are getting full +12V at the bulbs or they'll be dim.

Also you could try driving with the driving lights on too, some wedges allow them to be on independently. If pointing the right direction they are a help.

Lastly, wait till it's a full moon!

Toltec

7,179 posts

253 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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I wonder if something like this Hella lamp could be fitted in the lamp pod.

wombat172a

1,458 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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I'm in the same position as you. About 2 years ago I did a halogen headlamp conversion to my land rover for about £20, I'm currently tring to work out if I do the same on the wedge (just need to check the size of the headlamps themselves).

johntom

248 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Hi
i've just fitted 2 brand new headlights to my 400 and the light output is very good. With age the original headlights loose their clarity and as previously mentioned the reflectors break up. They were around £55 each from tvr car parts.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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These look good value, I think you'll want the H4 bulb ones. Don't worry if there's no sidelight bulb in the lens, they aren't necessary.

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/prod/wipac-quadoptic.html

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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I've been down this avenue with my other car.

it's worth tracking down a decent brand such as Hella rather than a Heinz 57 as the lens and or reflector is sometimes of better quality.

I wanted to minimise the onset of rust and or water ingress so went for one without a sidelight!

Anyone running HID's?

Phil
420 SEAC


Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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I have HIDs on the bike and the difference was... er... night and day wink

The initial startup spike draws a fair bit more current than a standard H4 but it's only for a couple of seconds so not usually an issue. Once running a typical HID draws 50% of the current required by halogen... so there's a reduced load on the alternator, theoretically freeing-up a few gee-gees wink OK, so they take a few seconds to come up to full brightness but that's when you're warming the engine up anyway... aren't you? wink

If you trace the route taken by the lighting current on a Wedge it's fairly tortuous and leads to a substantial voltage drop by the time it gets to the lights. Typically the juice has to get across the car from the battery to the relay board, pass through a couple of relays before meandering its way down to the front of the car. As if that weren't bad enough there are a few 20-year-old connectors en route that have lived in the best of British weather, unseen by man. No wonder there's little but a dim glimmer from the pods!

My solution was to make a new 'mini-loom' dedicated to the headlamps. It connects directly to the battery, is wired in heavy-gauge cable and takes the shortest practicable route to the headlamps - there's just one piece of wire from the new relay straight to the bulb terminal.
Coupled with some new 7" headlamps from Vehicle Wiring Products and I'm no longer afraid to put my foot down after dark.
No changes were made to the car's existing wiring, the new circuitry is protected by its own fuses and an unexpected side-effect is that I can play the stereo at higher volumes as it no longer cuts out due to the voltage drop caused by the headlamps!

Toltec

7,179 posts

253 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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Wedg1e said:
My solution was to make a new 'mini-loom' dedicated to the headlamps.
I did something similar for a friends Moto-Guzzi when she swapped to a twin headlamp fairing. Designing the circuit so that the switchgear only handled the current to power up relays rather than the headlamp made a big difference to the voltage seen across the lamps.

On that point you might want to check that J.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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I managed to fit twin hella 90mm's in my 400SE, I think 2 other are running them also.
They are a complete bd to fit though. you looking at about 2-3 days labour.

jock sproket

265 posts

211 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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have a look at europaspares.co.uk got mine from there they have others to mix and match


jock sproket

Jack Valiant

1,894 posts

266 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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On the subject of lights where is the best place to get a replacement Cibie Airport glass from for the 350's driving lights? Don't suggest EBay as I have been ripped off on there so will not buy anything from it nono

Thanks

Chris

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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Telephone Hella UK.

They may be able to help, especially if you can track down the original brand and p/n.

Phil
420 SEAC

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Jack Valiant said:
On the subject of lights where is the best place to get a replacement Cibie Airport glass from for the 350's driving lights? Don't suggest EBay as I have been ripped off on there so will not buy anything from it nono

Thanks

Chris
Well Ebay is only an auction site; you don't buy from IT, you buy from Joe Public (or Jim Dealer) who uses it to sell. One rotten apple does not a whole spoiled barrel make. I've had a few questionable deals over the years, goods that never appeared etc. but by and large almost a decade without problems. I've also sold plenty of stuff without quibble, so it does work... rather like an internet dating site, it just gets you together with the other party! biggrin