and ANOTHER one for the gun club
and ANOTHER one for the gun club
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leeeeshad

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1,479 posts

217 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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What are the rules about the land you can shoot on, i have access to a field but it has a railway line on one side (about 20ft up an embankment) and a well used river at 90o to the railway, would that be usable for shooting? its about the size of 4 football pitches.

NDA

25,627 posts

255 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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leeeeshad said:
What are the rules about the land you can shoot on, i have access to a field but it has a railway line on one side (about 20ft up an embankment) and a well used river at 90o to the railway, would that be usable for shooting? its about the size of 4 football pitches.
You have to have permission from the land owner to shoot on the land, having 'access' is probably not sufficient. Without permission it could be armed trespass.

As to the land's suitability, the land owner would (if having given you specific permission) become liable were there to be an accident.

I would imagine the railway authority would object as could those using the river. It doesn't, from your description, sound ideal.

leeeeshad

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1,479 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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It's owned by a family member so I would have permission, due to trees its not visable from the railway and only a small part can be seen from the river, does it have to be inspected for a sgc or just for a fac?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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what will you be shooting, rabbits?

jshell

12,096 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
This^

If for a shotgun, I couldnt see a problem, FAC may be more tricky, due to public safety, its not really big enough for small bore stuff.

VetteG

3,236 posts

274 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G

davido140

9,616 posts

256 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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VetteG said:
jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G
Me call it, "stick that go boom"...

jshell

12,096 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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VetteG said:
jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G
<pedant mode> A be? biglaugh

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

249 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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A specific property or piece of land needs to be cleared by the local Plod for a particular calibre. Some times they may specify the firing point, eg. a deer shooting high seat.

For shotguns it is often a matter of common sense.

The principle applied is that the projectile must not leave the property, thus endangering people/animals in adjacent land.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

249 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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VetteG said:
jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G
Agree that.

Call it a firearm on all occasions and you cannot be wrong.

leeeeshad

Original Poster:

1,479 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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probably a 12 bore, shooting clays

thanks

Mr.Jimbo

2,084 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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jshell said:
VetteG said:
jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G
<pedant mode> A be? biglaugh
Called Eric?

<silly buggers mode>

koolchris99

12,524 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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leeeeshad said:
probably a 12 bore, shooting clays

thanks
field doesn't sound big enough...


leeeeshad

Original Poster:

1,479 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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400 yards long by about 200, thave got another one aswell, about twice the sive but thats got a footpath next to it...

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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koolchris99 said:
leeeeshad said:
probably a 12 bore, shooting clays

thanks
field doesn't sound big enough...
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They'll be on the floor in a box.

wiffmaster

2,622 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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You will be granted a shotgun certificate, as you don't actually require any land/permission to get one. You can use a shotgun wherever you have permission to do so, but the shot cannot leave the land. If any lead shot were to find its way onto neighbouring property over which you had no permission, you could be in a lot of trouble. So, unless you're 100% sure the shot won't leave your permission, it's a bit of a no go. Same applies for air rifles.

I would say you'd have zero chance of getting a FAC. I doubt I could get FAC approval even with 120 acres and just a single footpath running through it.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Mr.Jimbo said:
jshell said:
VetteG said:
jshell said:
What type and caliber of weapon would you be using?
Its not a weapon its a firearm, try using a firearm as a weapon and see what happens.
A bit pedantic I know, but its something I have a be in my bonnet about!

G
<pedant mode> A be? biglaugh
Called Eric?

<silly buggers mode>
Beat me to it biggrin

A-singing...

La, di, di, one, two, three,
Eric, the half a bee...
A, B, C, D, E, F, G,
Eric, the half a bee...

koolchris99

12,524 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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leeeeshad said:
400 yards long by about 200, thave got another one aswell, about twice the sive but thats got a footpath next to it...
on the bigger one could you shoot from the footpath end?

oddman

4,268 posts

282 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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This sounds far too much of a ball ache why not just join a clay club?

Not expensive
More sociable
Get advice maybe tuition
Try other people's guns
Less hassle with neighbours/noise pollution issues
If you play your cards right you might even make some contacts for rough or driven shooting

If you do want to shoot on the land then plinking with an air rifle or bunnies with a moderated .410 may be more appropriate