Villeneuve to Lotus?
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andy_s

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19,853 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_573892...



Jacques Villeneuve looks set to join the new Lotus team next season with the outfit expected to announce their line-up next week.


The 38-year-old former World Champion is currently employing a rigorous fitness program as he looks to get back into shape for a possible return to Formula One.


Villeneuve has enlisted the services of his former trainer Dr Erwin Gollner, who also trains Nico Rosberg, for what the Canadian describes as a "really, really brutal" fitness regime.


It appears the Canadian's efforts will be rewarded with a race seat, with the driver insisting that while the discussions are "still preliminary" that he wouldn't "come to suffer, in a retreat, leaving my two sons far away, if I didn't believe things are moving along well."


An announcement from Lotus with regards to their driver line-up will be made in the near future, with chief executive officer Riad Asmat telling The Star, "We will name two drivers and a reserve. Negotiations are still going on."


Meanwhile, Villeneuve's push for a return to Formula One has been backed by the promoters of the Canadian Grand Prix.


"I can't deny that if Jacques is back in a Formula One car it will help the Grand Prix,"Francois Dumontier of promoters Octane Racing Group is reported to have told the National Post.


"People here love him. We saw how popular he is when he raced NASCAR here. I would be fan no.1 if Jacques is back in a Lotus car and if we can help him, that's what we'll do," he addled.

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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I can only see him troubling the tail end of the grid. What is the point - new car and team, old driver?

I suppose it wasn't THAT long ago he was still driving though, but even so........

7 Sevens

658 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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[quote=Rollcage] What is the point - new car and team, old driver?

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I suppose some people said that about Rubens this year. I guess JV brings experience but its hardly recent and it didn't work at BAR for him. I thought Jarno was in the frame?

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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The last completely new F1 team was Toyota, and look how well that turned out,despite huge funding.

Next year will see several new teams with small budgets.

I predict a lot of feet shuffleing going on in 2010!

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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I think it has been shown, by the failures of Toyota, Honda and BMW, that irrespective of whether you have lots of money and good drivers, if you don't have the engineer who designs the best car.......you're not going to do very well.


mustard tab

293 posts

206 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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JV would bring an element racing ability and knowledge to a team that will probably have to secure the services of a paying driver in the second seat, he will be able to advise them which way to go on set up for each race and assist in the long term development of the car, agreed that his ability may be a little rusty, but he should definitely give good feedback to the engineers on the handling characteristics of the car, more so than two youngsters with minimal F1 exposure would be able to, just look at last year with Renault and Red Bull.
i cant see him anywhere near the middle of the grid next season as the car has had a very rushed development, and i am not confident that Mike Gascoyne can direct the team where it needs to get.
the reference to Toyota making a hash of their time in F1 needs to be countered with the constant changes in lineup they experienced and a lack of continuity. If memory serves even Mr Gascoyne was technical head for a period, commuting by helicopter each day!!

haggy

1,955 posts

243 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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He's driven at le mans recently - seemed to do ok

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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mustard tab said:
i cant see him anywhere near the middle of the grid next season as the car has had a very rushed development, and i am not confident that Mike Gascoyne can direct the team where it needs to get.
Also the fact the JV proved increasingly a disruptive influence as his career went on, openly and scathingly critical of the team he was racing for when things didn't go the way he demanded and prone to tantrums and outbursts when soundly beaten by team mates.

A now rusty driver who proved more a liability than an asset for the last half of his F1 career… Lotus must be desperate for ANY experience they can get. Literally, they must be.

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Well, I'd be very pleased to see Jacques back, and I hope the Lotus is a good car.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Magic need more characters like him.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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haggy said:
He's driven at le mans recently - seemed to do ok
You kidding? He got slandered by all and sundry for being the slowest guy in the team. Granted he didn't bin it, but he wasn't invited back the next year either.

Save Ferris

2,738 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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zac510 said:
haggy said:
He's driven at le mans recently - seemed to do ok
You kidding? He got slandered by all and sundry for being the slowest guy in the team. Granted he didn't bin it, but he wasn't invited back the next year either.
Apart from when he drove in 2007 and 2008.


zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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ah I forgot about '08.. That'll learn me for trusting my memory.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Rollcage said:
The last completely new F1 team was Toyota, and look how well that turned out,despite huge funding.

Next year will see several new teams with small budgets.

I predict a lot of feet shuffleing going on in 2010!
I think that's a good thing. Sure the frontrunners will be the established players, but I reckon there'l be a real battle in the latter half of the grid. Teams still finding their feet, etc.

IMHO "the glory days of 40-50 years ago" were more glorious by the fact that a lot of the drivers weren't up to scratch, as it was still cheap enough to be a rich boy's passtime. Not to take anything from the greats, who were exactly that, but a field full of privateers capitalising on eachother's mistakes would be very exciting to watch.
Let's face it, the technology and training is so advanced that 50% of the time the only way to really overtake someone is when they make a balls up. More mistakes from lower teams=more people capitalising on those mistakes=more exciting racing.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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JV visited Hethel a few days ago and was photographed with Clive Chapman at CTL. As that facility is so geographically close to the new F1 factory, there is probably some substance here. As a GV fan, I naturally supported JV in his CART endeavours and subsequently in F1. He had some great moments in his first couple of seasons, but proved a slightly glass-jawed champ in latter years and (IMO)would do well to have a crack at an ALMS campaign rather than join a potentially tail ending Grand Prix team.

Syndrome

892 posts

203 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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JV has been banging on about coming back to F1 "because they've got proper tyres again", since the Monaco GP. I'd love to see him back, if only to hear him giving interviewers a hard time hehe

KaraK

13,787 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Rollcage said:
I can only see him troubling the tail end of the grid. What is the point - new car and team, crap driver?

I suppose it wasn't THAT long ago he was still driving though, but even so........
EFA smile

While a part of me remembers that he seemed to generally be a pain in the arse and he really wasn't that quick, and IMO he'd never have had an F1 career if it wasnt for his surname. I would still love to be proven wrong as it would do great things for the sport both worldwide and especially in Canada.

Also imagine for a minute if JV and MS were both back (a stretch I know) - we'd have FIVE World Champions on the grid, that'd be awesome!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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superkartracer said:
Magic need more characters like him.
exactly my thoughts, less robots like hamilton, more drivers like villeneuve.

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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I loved this story in the Norwich Evening News, that reports JV being seen at a local pub.

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/news/story....


Holst

2,468 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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KaraK said:
Rollcage said:
I can only see him troubling the tail end of the grid. What is the point - new car and team, crap driver?

I suppose it wasn't THAT long ago he was still driving though, but even so........
EFA smile

While a part of me remembers that he seemed to generally be a pain in the arse and he really wasn't that quick, and IMO he'd never have had an F1 career if it wasnt for his surname. I would still love to be proven wrong as it would do great things for the sport both worldwide and especially in Canada.

Also imagine for a minute if JV and MS were both back (a stretch I know) - we'd have FIVE World Champions on the grid, that'd be awesome!
If Kimi had a drive then it could have been 6 champions.

I think it will be good fun to watch Villeneuve back in F1.
Im not a great fan but he will be interesting to watch and even more interesting in the interviews.