Need some Fireplace suggestions
Discussion
Hi All,
In my lounge I have a fairly large fire surround, with a big hole where the grate should be:
The size of the hole is:
To the wooden surround H:1140(44.5"), W:1050(41")
The actual hole(edge of concrete): 920 x 920.
I have done various work around the house, but with this fireplace I have no idea what I want to do with it, or what it should be like. Some options:
1. Put a cast insert in. The problem with this is I can't find one which is 44" high amd 41" wide, which is the size it would need to be to go to the surround. There may be some leeway on the height as I can raise the hearth.
2. Put a cast insert in which is slightly too small, say 40"x40", and make up the gap with tiles/wood. This is easy to do as there are loads of inserts this size, but I suspect it will look horrible.
3. Tile the visible concrete in the photo. Clean the brickwork/repoint and put in either a basket, or log burner. This could look effective but I'm not it's what I want. On the plus side its not too hard to do.
So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Graham
P.S. The solution does not need a functional fire - i.e. heating comes from central heating and it's in Edinburgh city centre where they are not too keen on coal fires. Although I may try to make it operational if installing a proper insert/basket.
In my lounge I have a fairly large fire surround, with a big hole where the grate should be:
The size of the hole is:
To the wooden surround H:1140(44.5"), W:1050(41")
The actual hole(edge of concrete): 920 x 920.
I have done various work around the house, but with this fireplace I have no idea what I want to do with it, or what it should be like. Some options:
1. Put a cast insert in. The problem with this is I can't find one which is 44" high amd 41" wide, which is the size it would need to be to go to the surround. There may be some leeway on the height as I can raise the hearth.
2. Put a cast insert in which is slightly too small, say 40"x40", and make up the gap with tiles/wood. This is easy to do as there are loads of inserts this size, but I suspect it will look horrible.
3. Tile the visible concrete in the photo. Clean the brickwork/repoint and put in either a basket, or log burner. This could look effective but I'm not it's what I want. On the plus side its not too hard to do.
So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Graham
P.S. The solution does not need a functional fire - i.e. heating comes from central heating and it's in Edinburgh city centre where they are not too keen on coal fires. Although I may try to make it operational if installing a proper insert/basket.
Edited by blinkythefish on Thursday 3rd December 15:58
Edited by blinkythefish on Thursday 3rd December 16:00
In the same position myself actually.
I've done a lot of work throughout the house, but the hearth has me beaten for ideas!
I have a load of old roofing slate left behind by the previous house owner so going to cut these into 3 different sizes, sqare edged with a diamond tile cutter and lay them random with no joints and see what it looks like.
If it's no good, it's out with the breaker and put in a solid slate hearth stone or reclaimed yorkstone (I did this in a previous house and it was nice).
Yours might suit some herringbone bricks?
I've done a lot of work throughout the house, but the hearth has me beaten for ideas!
I have a load of old roofing slate left behind by the previous house owner so going to cut these into 3 different sizes, sqare edged with a diamond tile cutter and lay them random with no joints and see what it looks like.
If it's no good, it's out with the breaker and put in a solid slate hearth stone or reclaimed yorkstone (I did this in a previous house and it was nice).
Yours might suit some herringbone bricks?
Edited by PGM on Thursday 3rd December 16:21
PGM said:
In the same position myself actually.
I've done a lot of work throughout the house, but the hearth has me beaten for ideas!
I have a load of old roofing slate left behind by the previous house owner so going to cut these into 3 different sizes, sqare edged with a diamond tile cutter and lay them random with no joints and see what it looks like.
If it's no good, it's out with the breaker and put in a solid slate hearth stone or reclaimed yorkstone (I did this in a previous house and it was nice).
Yours might suit some herringbone bricks?
I was originally thinking slate hearth too, but it may look cluttered - tile, brick and slate at the same time will be too much. I hadn't considered a herringbone brick hearth, but it might go well with the brick back. I think I'll start by cleaning the back bricks up and seeing whether they are any good.I've done a lot of work throughout the house, but the hearth has me beaten for ideas!
I have a load of old roofing slate left behind by the previous house owner so going to cut these into 3 different sizes, sqare edged with a diamond tile cutter and lay them random with no joints and see what it looks like.
If it's no good, it's out with the breaker and put in a solid slate hearth stone or reclaimed yorkstone (I did this in a previous house and it was nice).
Yours might suit some herringbone bricks?
Edited by PGM on Thursday 3rd December 16:21
can you find a cast back thats larger than you need, then cut down to suit?
or perhaps a new surround to fit a smaller back?
doesn't have to cost the earth. i sourced a brand new cast adam-style fireback, carved surround and marble hearth for under £200. took me a bit to accumulate the bits but it was worth it.
or perhaps a new surround to fit a smaller back?
doesn't have to cost the earth. i sourced a brand new cast adam-style fireback, carved surround and marble hearth for under £200. took me a bit to accumulate the bits but it was worth it.
blinkythefish said:
1. Put a cast insert in. The problem with this is I can't find one which is 44" high amd 41" wide, which is the size it would need to be to go to the surround. There may be some leeway on the height as I can raise the hearth.
So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
Graham, there's a guy down here that does all sorts of sizes and is a bit of a fireplace expert. I can go on a recce and see if he has a 44x41 insert if you like? Trouble is, Edinburgh is a long way from Dover...!!So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
Dover Nige said:
blinkythefish said:
1. Put a cast insert in. The problem with this is I can't find one which is 44" high amd 41" wide, which is the size it would need to be to go to the surround. There may be some leeway on the height as I can raise the hearth.
So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
Graham, there's a guy down here that does all sorts of sizes and is a bit of a fireplace expert. I can go on a recce and see if he has a 44x41 insert if you like? Trouble is, Edinburgh is a long way from Dover...!!So the reason I'm posting is to ask if anyone has ever seen, or knows where to get, an insert 44"x41"? Or do you think that options 2/3 would look ok? Or do you have any other suggestions?
I started off leaning towards a cast insert. But I am now wondering if the suggestion of herringbone hearth, cleaning up the back bricks and the log burner could work quite well. I'm going to go home tonight and discuss this alternative with the OH.
If we decide that we definitely want a cast insert I'll give you a PM and see if a recce is possible. Either way, thanks for the offer.
Dover Nige said:
That's begging for one of those lovely wood burning stoves to be slotted in...
Not with a wooden fire surround, I'm afraid. Modern regs say no!The people who supplied the fireplace in our sitting room came to measure up for their smallest wood burner for the dining room. The distance to the fire surround was too small so we couldn't have one without changing to a stone surround.
Have you tried any Fireplace centres ? as they will be able to get pieces cut to size of various stone type material
Certainly our local one was going to a year or two ago
http://cinders-fireplaces.co.uk/index.php
Just a couple of hrs drive up to the deen !
Other option would be a stone mason's yard & have granite inlays/hearth but it would be ££££
Certainly our local one was going to a year or two ago
http://cinders-fireplaces.co.uk/index.php
Just a couple of hrs drive up to the deen !
Other option would be a stone mason's yard & have granite inlays/hearth but it would be ££££
FlossyThePig said:
Dover Nige said:
That's begging for one of those lovely wood burning stoves to be slotted in...
Not with a wooden fire surround, I'm afraid. Modern regs say no!The people who supplied the fireplace in our sitting room came to measure up for their smallest wood burner for the dining room. The distance to the fire surround was too small so we couldn't have one without changing to a stone surround.
The wooden surround is pretty large, and it has a layer of stone between where the fire would be and the wooden surround, so it might still be ok. Although I'll check up before I make a decision on the final fire design.
blinkythefish said:
FlossyThePig said:
Dover Nige said:
That's begging for one of those lovely wood burning stoves to be slotted in...
Not with a wooden fire surround, I'm afraid. Modern regs say no!The people who supplied the fireplace in our sitting room came to measure up for their smallest wood burner for the dining room. The distance to the fire surround was too small so we couldn't have one without changing to a stone surround.
The wooden surround is pretty large, and it has a layer of stone between where the fire would be and the wooden surround, so it might still be ok. Although I'll check up before I make a decision on the final fire design.
had a similar problem
removed a horrible plastered 70s fire place to find the original stone hidden underneath ,the only problem was the fireplace had a gaping hole where the flue should have been
rebuilt the stonework and installed a Rudloe stone ""country manor"" fireplace
then installed a new flue , liner and ESSE 200 burner
Would reccommend fitting an Esse 100,200 as they are very compact width wise
http://www.stovesareus.co.uk/catalog/esse-100-mult...
removed a horrible plastered 70s fire place to find the original stone hidden underneath ,the only problem was the fireplace had a gaping hole where the flue should have been
rebuilt the stonework and installed a Rudloe stone ""country manor"" fireplace
then installed a new flue , liner and ESSE 200 burner
Would reccommend fitting an Esse 100,200 as they are very compact width wise
http://www.stovesareus.co.uk/catalog/esse-100-mult...
davidspooner said:
Hello there,
Can you tell me what this is please?
Many thanks.
It is a clock, which belongs to my girlfriend. Can you tell me what this is please?
Many thanks.
I did suggest cleaning the mantlepeice before she took the picture, but a few things have managed to creep in.
Edited by blinkythefish on Monday 7th December 10:27
DBSV8 said:
had a similar problem
removed a horrible plastered 70s fire place to find the original stone hidden underneath ,the only problem was the fireplace had a gaping hole where the flue should have been
rebuilt the stonework and installed a Rudloe stone ""country manor"" fireplace
then installed a new flue , liner and ESSE 200 burner
Would reccommend fitting an Esse 100,200 as they are very compact width wise
http://www.stovesareus.co.uk/catalog/esse-100-mult...
Looks really good. Did you do the work yourself?removed a horrible plastered 70s fire place to find the original stone hidden underneath ,the only problem was the fireplace had a gaping hole where the flue should have been
rebuilt the stonework and installed a Rudloe stone ""country manor"" fireplace
then installed a new flue , liner and ESSE 200 burner
Would reccommend fitting an Esse 100,200 as they are very compact width wise
http://www.stovesareus.co.uk/catalog/esse-100-mult...
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