Foxy goes down for the last time
Foxy goes down for the last time
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lazyitus

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19,931 posts

296 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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bonsai

2,015 posts

210 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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I'd let her murder me in a kinky sex game. The slaaag.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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Am I missing something?

According to that article, Knox and her boyfriend have been ordered to pay €1m to each of Kercher's parents and €800k to each of her siblings in compensation.

Where exactly are they expected to come up with €4.4m from? confused It's one thing awarding large damages against companies with insurance, but what's the point of ordering it against these two? Even if they get out of jail, find jobs and pay every single cent they earn over to the Kercher family until they die, they're not going to be able to pay up.

SJobson

13,840 posts

294 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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I still can't see what their motive was, and Guede has already been sent down for the crime, so were they simply aware of what Guede had done and guilty of covering up, thus making them accessories?

Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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SJobson said:
I still can't see what their motive was, and Guede has already been sent down for the crime, so were they simply aware of what Guede had done and guilty of covering up, thus making them accessories?
It was just a sex game gone wrong, wasn't it?

SJobson

13,840 posts

294 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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Kermit power said:
It was just a sex game gone wrong, wasn't it?
Your partner must love your bedroom antics wink

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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An interesting outcome. Not knowing much about Italian law I'm not sure what to make of it (maybe someone can help?). 25/26 years is pretty much 'you murdered her', yet someone else is already doing 30 years after some kind of 'grassing them up'... confused

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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grumbledoak said:
An interesting outcome. Not knowing much about Italian law I'm not sure what to make of it (maybe someone can help?). 25/26 years is pretty much 'you murdered her', yet someone else is already doing 30 years after some kind of 'grassing them up'... confused
I believe its called "justice". If they were in America one of them would have fried by now and the others may have been put in the waiting room.

grumbledoak

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263 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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EDLT said:
If they were in America one of them would have fried by now and the others may have been put in the waiting room.
Apologies if I'm being a bit thick, but surely in America the 'grass' would have evaded his thirty years for turning?

I'm not commenting on the sentences (if they killed the poor girl I'd be happy with the Big Chair), I'm just struggling to imagine a 'storyline' that makes this the right outcome.

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

213 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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bonsai said:
I'd let her murder me in a kinky sex game. The slaaag.
So few words say so much about you.....

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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I find this extremely odd, there doesnt seem to be enough evidence for the conviction imo.


pokethepope

2,667 posts

218 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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Kermit power said:
Am I missing something?

According to that article, Knox and her boyfriend have been ordered to pay €1m to each of Kercher's parents and €800k to each of her siblings in compensation.

Where exactly are they expected to come up with €4.4m from? confused It's one thing awarding large damages against companies with insurance, but what's the point of ordering it against these two? Even if they get out of jail, find jobs and pay every single cent they earn over to the Kercher family until they die, they're not going to be able to pay up.
I thought the same when i read the article. Can anyone comment on this, genuinely can't see how it would ever actually be paid, but surely they ruled on the payment for a reason?

Fezant Pluckah

1,711 posts

241 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
I find this extremely odd, there doesnt seem to be enough evidence for the conviction imo.
I think the Telegraph said it a bit better: http://m.telegraph.co.uk/;s=1hl3N1oZ_qvvsPAvBJfedQ...

Puggit

49,804 posts

278 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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My second cousin (mum's cousin's daughter) was in Perugia with Knox and Kercher until just before the murder. She's not convinced, and there does appear to be a complete lack of damning evidence (aka smoking gun!).

pokethepope

2,667 posts

218 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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They're going to be disappointed then, the telegraph article says they are demanding £22m (doesn't say from who, may be a victims of crime fund equivalent but i assume it means from Knox et al.)

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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I can't see how she deserves this sentence.

How can 3 people murder one person?

pokethepope

2,667 posts

218 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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Baby Huey said:
I can't see how she deserves this sentence.

How can 3 people murder one person?
The way its described on the telegraph website is that one bloke held her down on her knees, the other 'sexually assaulted her' and Knox taunted her with the knife before stabbing her three times, and IIRC cutting/ripping her throat. In that case they should all be tried for murder IMO, providing they knew that Knox was going to murder her, rather than rape/violent sex game.

The 'evidence' they were convicted on (although of course we may not be privy to it all) does seem pretty thin; it seems to revolve around them having holes in their alibi so they must have done it.

greygoose

9,663 posts

225 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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Baby Huey said:
I can't see how she deserves this sentence.

How can 3 people murder one person?
Any number of people can be charged with murdering one person, they were all in on the act together.

25 years for murder seems fine to me, it is a shame that British courts do not place such a value on the life of the victim.

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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pokethepope said:
Baby Huey said:
I can't see how she deserves this sentence.

How can 3 people murder one person?
The way its described on the telegraph website is that one bloke held her down on her knees, the other 'sexually assaulted her' and Knox taunted her with the knife before stabbing her three times, and IIRC cutting/ripping her throat. In that case they should all be tried for murder IMO, providing they knew that Knox was going to murder her, rather than rape/violent sex game.

The 'evidence' they were convicted on (although of course we may not be privy to it all) does seem pretty thin; it seems to revolve around them having holes in their alibi so they must have done it.
It certainly whiffs of a fit up. Although I'm sure the Italian justice is beyond reproach.rolleyes

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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greygoose said:
Baby Huey said:
I can't see how she deserves this sentence.

How can 3 people murder one person?
Any number of people can be charged with murdering one person, they were all in on the act together.

25 years for murder seems fine to me, it is a shame that British courts do not place such a value on the life of the victim.
Do you think she is guilty?