12 year old raped - what the hell is wrong with people?
12 year old raped - what the hell is wrong with people?
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Funk

Original Poster:

27,689 posts

239 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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This is just sick, and makes me want the return of the death penalty.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8404037....

Poor kid'll be scarred for life. frown

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

261 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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anonymous said:
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And guess how long he will be in prison if convicted? So who really is to blame?

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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PPPPPP said:
anonymous said:
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And guess how long he will be in prison if convicted? So who really is to blame?
The guy who did the rape?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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What is wrong is that we do not have effective deterrents in this country.

baptistsan

1,918 posts

240 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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It wont be his fault. He is just misunderstood, is a promising footballer etc. But the schools have failed him, his parents have failed him, we as a society have failed him. fk it I think even Santa and the Easter bunny failed him.

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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The noose wouldn't fail him.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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HOGEPH said:
What is wrong is that we do not have effective deterrents in this country.
No what is wrong is that he hasn't been brought up properly.

No-one is to blame but him. The second you start blaming court punishments or this or that then we forget that people are responsible for their own behaviour.

Eric Mc

125,680 posts

295 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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HOGEPH said:
What is wrong is that we do not have effective deterrents in this country.
Do you think incidents like this stop because of deterrents?

Were people never raped in the past when justice was harsher?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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I agree with you, but the effective deterrents in this country we also don't have are corporal punishment in school, and fear and respect of authority.

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

261 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
No what is wrong is that he hasn't been brought up properly.

so it's fair game for the the rest of the population to pay for his parents misdeeds. So punish the parents also/instead?

Tadite

560 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
HOGEPH said:
What is wrong is that we do not have effective deterrents in this country.
Do you think incidents like this stop because of deterrents?

Were people never raped in the past when justice was harsher?
In the past rape was nearly not a crime. The prosecution rate was nearly zero. Of course according to the Times of London in modern England you aren't all that good convicting even the most egregious examples.

Cooky

4,955 posts

267 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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castration of rapists would not ony deter but also reduce the number of reoffenders?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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As would shooting them.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Ten years hard labour building sea defences with no remission, the c**t wouldn't do it again and if he did double the time served.

croyde

26,375 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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I know it's not PC but the amount of crimes where it is reported by the papers that the attacker/mugger/rapist was black...........

Does anyone think to themselves, now there's a surprise.

I know I am not allowed to say that but as a father of a 10 year old girl who desperately wants to be able to go to the shops on her own, but we are in an area of high street crime mainly practised by a certain demographic, I am fekin' angry/worried/scared.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Tadite said:
Eric Mc said:
HOGEPH said:
What is wrong is that we do not have effective deterrents in this country.
Do you think incidents like this stop because of deterrents?

Were people never raped in the past when justice was harsher?
In the past rape was nearly not a crime. The prosecution rate was nearly zero. Of course according to the Times of London in modern England you aren't all that good convicting even the most egregious examples.
I cannot comment on this except to say thats not quite the case.

4nonymous

2,920 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Hmm obviously was this fella, and I have a gut feeling he was just trolling to get into the papers.



And I wonder if the 12 year old said "I am twelve years old what is this?."



Edited by 4nonymous on Wednesday 9th December 19:35

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

248 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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croyde said:
I know it's not PC but the amount of crimes where it is reported by the papers that the attacker/mugger/rapist was black...........

Does anyone think to themselves, now there's a surprise.

I know I am not allowed to say that but as a father of a 10 year old girl who desperately wants to be able to go to the shops on her own, but we are in an area of high street crime mainly practised by a certain demographic, I am fekin' angry/worried/scared.
If its based on fact which in this case it seems to be I dont think you have any reason to be worried about stating your opinion.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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Cooky said:
castration of rapists would not ony deter but also reduce the number of reoffenders?
No. Rape is not really about the sex; it is more about the power and control. They'd find something else to stick in their victims...

But the right combination of a rope, a weight, and the Irish Sea would prevent most would-be recidivists.

Jonny_

4,707 posts

237 months

Wednesday 9th December 2009
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It boggles the mind how anyone can carry out this kind of sick st. If we could only give him the punishment he deserves, he'd be sentenced to death by chainsaw rape.