Family taken hostage, vigilante jailed for 30 months
Family taken hostage, vigilante jailed for 30 months
Author
Discussion

Rusty Arches

Original Poster:

694 posts

190 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Sorry about using DailyFail as a source paperbag

A millionaire businessman who fought off knife-wielding thugs who threatened to kill his family was jailed for 30 months today - while his attackers remain free to walk the streets.

Munir Hussain, his wife and their three children stumbled on three intruders, wearing balaclavas, in their home when they returned from their mosque during Ramadan.

The family were ordered to lie on the floor of the living room with their hands behind their backs.

As four of them were tied up, Mr Hussain's teenage son escaped through a window.

Two of the raiders fled when they realised the youngster had gone.

Mr Hussain then threw a coffee table at the third man, 56-year-old Walid Salem, hitting him in the face.

He then enlisted his brother Tokeer in chasing the offenders down, bringing one of them to the ground in a nearby garden in the street in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire.

What followed was described in Reading Crown Court as self-defence that went too far, leaving intruder Salem with a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235782/Fa...

Edited by Rusty Arches on Monday 14th December 15:52

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

251 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
The Daily Mail. lol.

Hedders

24,460 posts

264 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Parrot of Doom said:
The Daily Mail. lol.
Assuming the story IS true..

I have more sympathy for him that the guy that got his head caved in, unless it turns out there is some history between them all!


bonsai

2,015 posts

197 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
They shouldhave killed him and got rid of the body like they do in all their honour killings.

Bill

56,169 posts

272 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
It could have been a 7 year sentence...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art...

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

269 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Pretty straightforward case....bloke deserved to be sent down and it would be the same anywhere. In fact, i saw a film last week called Fellon about a US bloke that chases a burglar from his house and caves his head in with a bat on his lawn....gets sent down, as you'd expect.

Bill

56,169 posts

272 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Tiggsy said:
Pretty straightforward case....bloke deserved to be sent down and it would be the same anywhere. In fact, i saw a film last week called Fellon about a US bloke that chases a burglar from his house and caves his head in with a bat on his lawn....gets sent down, as you'd expect.
Indeed. But let's not let the truth get in the way of a good rant, eh?

Hedders

24,460 posts

264 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
It is way too easy to go from being a victim to being the accused these days frown

normalbloke

8,153 posts

236 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
bonsai said:
They shouldhave killed him and got rid of the body like they do in all their honour killings.
"they"


Now there is a loaded word.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

269 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Hedders said:
It is way too easy to go from being a victim to being the accused these days frown
Not really, the transition in this case required the enlistment of three others, the capture of the original attacker and then the crushing of his skull with a cricket bat. Not as simple a slide from one to other as you suggest.

Hedders

24,460 posts

264 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Tiggsy said:
Hedders said:
It is way too easy to go from being a victim to being the accused these days frown
Not really, the transition in this case required the enlistment of three others, the capture of the original attacker and then the crushing of his skull with a cricket bat. Not as simple a slide from one to other as you suggest.
Just because the guy (bad guy) had left his (victims) house, does not mean the threat of violence had been lifted. If someone held my family at knife point i would not forgive them because they decided to run away and fight another day!

Edited by Hedders on Monday 14th December 16:25

strudel

5,889 posts

244 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Yes, but at that point you invoke the law, not vigilante justice.

Hedders

24,460 posts

264 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
strudel said:
Yes, but at that point you invoke the law, not vigilante justice.
I realise i would be breaking the law if i did what this guy did. I am just stating that i can see exactly why he did it.

RDMcG

20,093 posts

224 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
I think a suspended sentence would have been adequate.

Pickled Piper

6,448 posts

252 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
Well done to the magistrate. The populace can now sleep peacefully knowing that the bad guys have been put away!

pp

ineedagallardo

1,601 posts

249 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
The british legal system is a fking joke.

In the states im sure that its well within the law to shoot and kill burglers- could be wrong, However,

The judge quoted " this is a clear message for people to not take the law into there own hands"

So you let the offender off with a fking supervision order you .

If it wasn't for the fking worthless ing legal system, people wouldn't need to take the law into there own fking hands and the perpertraitors would think twice before commiting fking offences you dumb fk.

s s s.

Bill

56,169 posts

272 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
ineedagallardo said:
In the states im sure that its well within the law to shoot and kill burglers- could be wrong,
On your property and bearing in mind "reasonable force", yes. After chasing them down the high street with your friends, no.

ineedagallardo said:
So you let the offender off with a fking supervision order you .
"But his injuries meant he was not fit to plead after being charged with false imprisonment".

So if they'd held him, rather than beating him up, he'd be starting a lengthy sentence...

ShadownINja

78,825 posts

299 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
He shoulda taken a leaf outta Tony Martin's book and finished the job.

5unny

4,395 posts

199 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
This is a tough one.

Can see exactly why the homeowner acted in this way but having the hostage taker held down and smacking him in the head several times with a cricket bat until the bat broke does seem a bit extreme - maybe breaking his legs would have been a better option wink

But 30 months in prison? Community service would have been more apt imo.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

262 months

Monday 14th December 2009
quotequote all
bonsai said:
They shouldhave killed him and got rid of the body like they do in all their honour killings.
His 18yr old daughter will probably have mixed emotions about the sentence, and her uncle is out of the way too.