Damp problem...
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dirty boy

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14,816 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Been in the house a few months now, and we're now getting damp/mould in one corner of our bathroom (upstairs) next to the toilet.

It's an old house 100+ years old, but this is in the extended bit, which I would guess is around 50 years old, not rendered.

Is it just condensation? I think perhaps there may be some water must be getting in near the pipes behind the toilet, as it's expanding from there (I've let it go a week to see how it grows - disgusting huh!)

Is a dehumidifier my only real option here otherwise? I could leave windows open, but that's not exactly a cure.

Wings

5,924 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Mould will form on the coldest spot, so ceiling that lacks insufficient insulation, hot moisture will rise, hitting (cold) ceiling below roof space, where mould will form/flourish. Either insulate in roof space, or increase ventilation, otherwise regularly clean with bleach and touch with paint.

V12Les

3,985 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Very common on older properties. Very cold water coming into a warm house=condensation. If you can see if its possible to lag any of the pipework, may help to a degree.

rovermorris999

5,312 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Almost certainly due to condensation. Fit an extractor fan that stays on for a while after you switch it off, if you get my drift.

Wings

5,924 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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rovermorris999 said:
Almost certainly due to condensation. Fit an extractor fan that stays on for a while after you switch it off, if you get my drift.
Good suggestion, particularly fan extracting to loft space,…..but rented accommodation, so OP needs to put that to the landlord/agent.

dirty boy

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Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Wings said:
rovermorris999 said:
Almost certainly due to condensation. Fit an extractor fan that stays on for a while after you switch it off, if you get my drift.
Good suggestion, particularly fan extracting to loft space,…..but rented accommodation, so OP needs to put that to the landlord/agent.
Not rented.

What about this http://www.solarventi.co.uk/index.pl?section=7

Any thoughts??

TooLateForAName

4,902 posts

206 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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have a look outside at the guttering and pointing.

Do *not* fit an extractor into the loft space unless your loft space is very very well ventillated.


consider mhrv

rovermorris999

5,312 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Surely nobody vents direct into a loft space? It should be ducted out at the soffit.

Wings

5,924 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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rovermorris999 said:
Surely nobody vents direct into a loft space? It should be ducted out at the soffit.
Vent through ceiling via loft space, out through soffit or roof.

HiRich

3,337 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Wings said:
rovermorris999 said:
Almost certainly due to condensation. Fit an extractor fan that stays on for a while after you switch it off, if you get my drift.
Good suggestion, particularly fan extracting to loft space,…..but rented accommodation, so OP needs to put that to the landlord/agent.
Because it's the bathroom that's the problem, I would agree with an extractor. Take a browse at Vent-Axia. I would suggest:
  • One with both timer and humidistat (stays on after the lights are used, and also fires up independently when the humidity rises). Tricky to set up well (lots of tweaking the dials), but they work rather well once you do.
  • One with an actuated non-return shutter incorporated in the fan unit. Less draughty when the wind comes from the exit side, and you don't get the exterior shutter falpping in the wind.
  • One of the loft-mounted units, rather than on/in-wall units. Quieter, easier to install, easier to replace (eventually), tidier, and the inlet can be placed right over the source (bath/shower). But it ultimately has to be vented out of the building, ideally on the leeward side of the building.
  • Add an isolator switch by the bathroom door - sometimes you want a bit of piece and quiet.
This may not totally solve the problem, but it will improve it significantly.

dirty boy

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14,816 posts

231 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Thanks for the comments, quite concerned by this, never had any problems at the old place, I've even got condensation in the loft too, but I suspect that's because my loft hatch doesn't fit very well (must sort that!)

Wall mounted dehumidifiers are huge, I think that'd be ideal, but will go with the extractor.

TooLateForAName

4,902 posts

206 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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I've just bought a vent axia HR25H - It isnt fitted yet so I cant give feedback on how effective it is, but it isnt too big compared to a normal fan (6" rather than 4" hole)