Registering a car without a chassis number. How?
Registering a car without a chassis number. How?
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Roony

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378 posts

252 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Guys

I am looking at buying an old alfa spider from Circ 1971. However the chassiss number has been ground off? the owner has had the car for 15 months as he took it with another car that he purchased at the same time..

Anyway how would I get the car registered? I am waisting my time and money?

Help please!

TheEnd

15,370 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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i guess it'll need a Vehicle identity check, and you want to pray it doesn't turn up on a missing list from 15 years ago.

h4muf

2,070 posts

230 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Run away !!

Roony

Original Poster:

378 posts

252 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Yeah.... Thats my concern! who is the proper owner! still its such a cheap car that if there was a way of registering the car?

williamp

20,106 posts

296 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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regardles of what amount you pay for it, if the car was stolen x years ago, and its identity can be proved then its not yours!

Run away. There is NO reason why the chassis number has been ground away, apart from to hide somehting very wrong- its identity, or a serious crash/cut n shut.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Roony said:
However the chassiss number has been ground off.

Roony

Original Poster:

378 posts

252 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I know!!!! It does smell a rat but the car is only going to cost £500 and is worth £2000.... parts are worth more! So if I could find a donar car???


Fort Jefferson said:
Roony said:
However the chassiss number has been ground off.

The Real Stig

148 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th December 2009
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The car is all wrong - it's either nicked or is a write off.

That is the way the law will look at it -They used to take a slighty more relaxed stance, If you could prove ownership and the previous owner would admit responability for selling it to you, you would be let off the hook.

Probably be left with out a car and out of pocket -

With no official I'd it's not tracable, so it could belong to anyone (not you). Some one in the past should have insurance write off paper work / v5 or a crime number with out it your stuffed!

If you put a new vin plate on it and m.o.t. it then becomes a ringer much worse than just stolen! if they tie you in with other people or the vehicle value is to high you will get hit with conspiricy or grand theft etc... etc...

With kit cars you could make an I'd plate up and get it sva'd to produce a log book - If you do it with a normal car they could Q plate it if you have all the paper work.

In your case you would probably be offered a cup of tea while they call the police.

If it's too cheap it is not right and you know it - whats worse it possibley could be some ones much loved car on here, why would you encourage theft?

tegwin

1,682 posts

229 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Read the rule books!! you DO NOT need a chassis number on cars older than 1973.... My 1972 TVR doesnt have one stamped on the chassis.... took it for an MOT and had a right argument with the tester... in the end he had to phone VOSA before he believed me that it was not required!

The Real Stig

148 posts

195 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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That maybe so - but he said it had been ground off!

I know of - not a friend. Some chap who bought two bikes of a chap who told him it was all good!

What ever this situation was, it involved chassis numbers, He even had paper work that he thought was legal. Any way he took a bike for an m.o.t. and the police got called, apparently this bike had a one off exhaust and an owner later Identified it?

I do not know the whole story - but I met this guy a few times: bit of a wimp,soft.
He did 1 year in prision, served only half of a sentence for conspiricy to commit freud or something like that he knew very little about what he was getting hiom self into. Wasted his inheritence on a conman. Now suffers from depression and doesnt work! Silly T##t