Camskill Falken 452's
Camskill Falken 452's
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AngryApples

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5,449 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Camskill do it again!

£512 for 4 x 19" Falken 452's for the E46 M3

Rags

3,674 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.

paulm3

657 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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what i have currently got on my z3m coupe...I like them and they are a hell of alot cheaper than michi ps2's!!! Very good in dry, and seem ok in the wet, but havent really fully pushed them in the wet yet

mat205125

17,790 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Rags said:
Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.
Really? Is this from personal experience?

I put a set of 452s on my car back in April of this year. Since then the car has covered over 12k miles, which included an afternoon lapping Castle Combe, a weekend at the Nurburgring (1 day on track), and a day arsing about on an airfield. The rest of the time isn't spent with Miss Daisy hitching a ride either.

Less than a fortnight ago, whilst being serviced, I had it confirmed that the fronts had 5mm left, and the rears were about 3mm .... I knew this already, however not the exact measurements - I run my fingers through the treads when I wash the car to see how close they are to the wear bars.

I'm getting a replacement pair for the rear delivered after Xmas, but am failing to see how you honestly expect a set of PS2s to last close to 25k miles with the same type of use.

ETA. I'll be using Camskills too, and fitting myself.

Edited by mat205125 on Wednesday 16th December 13:03

paulm3

657 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I had brand new ps2's on my S3 when i bought it.. they did around 10k miles including motorways, usual commuting a few track days & nurburg trip.
The Falkens did about 10k doing the same.. I would say the wear rate is pretty much the same.
But thats 4wd (not fully but..)
But on my old E46 M3 i was changing the rears twice to the fronts once every 12k'sh doing the same sort of stuff

AngryApples

Original Poster:

5,449 posts

288 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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Rags said:
Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.
Sorry rags, but from personal experience.......

Total, and utter bks!

(unless you're telling me Mich's can do 32k before a change?)

I have just changed my original set after just over 16k and whilst a lot of my mileage is Motorway, I do drive hard at weekends and evenings

So I'lll stick with the falkens and pocket the £600, ta

M-J-B

15,379 posts

273 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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AngryApples said:
Rags said:
Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.
Sorry rags, but from personal experience.......

Total, and utter bks!

(unless you're telling me Mich's can do 32k before a change?)

I have just changed my original set after just over 16k and whilst a lot of my mileage is Motorway, I do drive hard at weekends and evenings

So I'lll stick with the falkens and pocket the £600, ta
+1

I had them on my 535D and aside from the fact they don't cover the entire width of the alloy by a smidge they are fine and as good as any tyre I've used.

JNW1

9,200 posts

217 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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Rags said:
Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.
Heard the same story from one or two tyre retailers when I was looking to move to Vredesteins from Michelins on my M3CS; however, I took the chance and the Ultrac Sessantas lasted if anything slightly longer than the PS2's. As I've said on other threads, I've nothing against Michelins and think they're good tyres; however, whether they're work a significant price premium over some of the other brands is open to debate. Suffice to say my car is still on Vredesteins and they've proved to be good in all weathers (including the snow we had today!).

nick lewis

37 posts

243 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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I have pirelli P Zeros on my M3 and have to put a new pair on the back every 8,000miles which is once a year and i would say i drive it steady most of the time. think i might have to try something else for a change.

JMRS4

2,388 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th December 2009
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Anyone herd of these on the M3 E92, as I may put them on the spare winter set I have 18" when the PS2's run out.

Jim Green

449 posts

232 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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Had the Falken's on my E39 M5 and found them to be a great tyre in the dry (Never really pushed them in the wet, so don't know how they compare for wet weather grip).

They lasted me 18 months on the rear, which is the same as the michelins lasted.

Dry weather grip was the same as the michelins.

I'd put Falkens on any car with total confidence.

shim

2,051 posts

231 months

Friday 25th December 2009
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AngryApples said:
Camskill do it again!

£512 for 4 x 19" Falken 452's for the E46 M3
£505.76 fitted at Elite Tyres (265 & 235)






But whats the point in getting 340bhp with enough grip for 250bhp, seems a bit silly to me

plowy

262 posts

229 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Rags said:
Good price however they wear at twice the rate of Mich PS2's.

So ultimately, you will spend another £512 in the time that an original set would last.
So just how can you get 22K out of a rear set of PS2's????????? coz my rear 452's have just about done 11K...this includes, a ring trip with 12 laps, croft and Spa track days.....i can smell BS..



falkster

4,258 posts

226 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Have 451s on my E30 M3 and they might need replacing by the summer.....had 452s on my Z3M and lasted well, had 452s on my daily and last 25k before I scrapped it and will be putting 452s on my Boxster, Evo and M3 when they are due.

Great grip, low road noise and can't beat the value.

shim

2,051 posts

231 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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my whole set of PS2 were put on at 25k miles, still some tread left and car at 67k miles

Cups have done about 15k miles of that but otherwise PS2

TUCKER T

50 posts

224 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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shim said:
my whole set of PS2 were put on at 25k miles, still some tread left and car at 67k miles

Cups have done about 15k miles of that but otherwise PS2
42k on a set of tyres??????????




shim

2,051 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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TUCKER T said:
shim said:
my whole set of PS2 were put on at 25k miles, still some tread left and car at 67k miles

Cups have done about 15k miles of that but otherwise PS2
42k on a set of tyres??????????
NO, the post reads 42-15 = 27k' I will check my bills to make sure but around that

Rags

3,674 posts

259 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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Just from personal experience on a z3m coupe and a CSL.

_Neal_

2,887 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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shim said:
AngryApples said:
Camskill do it again!

£512 for 4 x 19" Falken 452's for the E46 M3
£505.76 fitted at Elite Tyres (265 & 235)

But whats the point in getting 340bhp with enough grip for 250bhp, seems a bit silly to me
That's not my experience of FK452s at all - they easily had enough grip when I used them on my Cerbera 4.5 - after that, I wouldn't hesitate to put them on any car I own.

Cheburator mk2

3,189 posts

222 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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To all the "nay sayers" - you should all do a bit of research. Falken is owned by Dunlop, which in turn is owned by GoodYear. Not bad provenance to start with, non? According to ADAC (German RAC equivalent and Europe's biggest authority on tyres by virtue of the breadth of tyre tests performed) Falken consistently come to within a whisker of beating Michelin PS2 in all categories. They usually win handling, wet handling, dry and wet stopping distance and lose in longevity and road noise. For the money though, it is difficult to complain. I have been using them since 2003 on all my cars and can recommend them with no reservations.

P.S. No affiliation with any vendor or tyre company