Tamora or Tuscan convertible?
Tamora or Tuscan convertible?
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OJAY

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28 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Afternoon. I'm a newcomer to the TVR fold. As a bit of background, I'm a possible convert from Porsche - but have decided that there are just too many of them around now. I'm thinking about either a late model Tamora or Tuscan convertible. It'll be used regularly, including a short commuting run (but a country backroads, rather than city, commute). Any thoughts on pros and cons from current owners?

Many thanks.

T40ORA

5,177 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Well, as Tamora owner, I would recommend a ....................
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Tamora biggrin

Seriously, it is horses for courses and personally I think it comes down to your preference for styling and size.

Although a lot of people would say that the Tamora is the best out-of-the-box TVR you can get, and if you can find one with a 4.0l engine.....

I'm sure many, many people will add their two penneth worth.

OatSy

1,550 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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I'm a Tamora owner but bought mine before the Tuscan II conv. was available So I would get a Tuscan now there is a choice smile but either cars are worth the money.

Edited by OatSy on Thursday 17th December 13:46

OJAY

Original Poster:

28 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Thanks. Mention's been made of the engine ... I remember "back in the day" that there were issues with the TVR 6 cylinder engine when it was launched. Were those satisfactorily resolved in later cars? I ask only because I see discussion on here of what seem to be late-ish T350s and Tuscans (2004, 2005) going in for re-builds. I know that such issues are down to luck-of-the-draw, but are the later engines, generally, more reliable?

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Both are good cars.

Tuscan has a bigger boot and some prefer the looks.

The Tamora is a better drivers package.

The Tuscan will have the torquier 4,0 litre engine as standard.

Tuscan will more than likely be more expensive.

Depends what your priorities are really.

RedSpike66

2,343 posts

241 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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TVR_owner said:
The Tuscan will have the torquier 4,0 litre engine as standard.
Tuscans were available in 3.6, 4.0 & 4.0S engine specs.
350, 360 & 380 bhp respectively I think, but with a fair bit more torque in 4.0 & 4.0S


The Surveyor

7,624 posts

266 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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I love the Tamora, the styling is an aquired taste to some, but in my view they are fantastic, however...

If it was a straight choice it would be a Tuscan 'vert everday of the week and twice at a weekend. Mine does everything I always wanted from a sports car, fast, stunning looks, loud, practical and just bloody good fun.

Paul

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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Under the covers, all the 'T' cars are more similar than they are different. The Sagaris and Tuscan II had an improved geometry and, apparently, better handling. Otherwise the differences are mostly the engine and the exterior.

Yes, as far as anyone can tell, engines from mid 2004 (even late 2003 in some reports) seem to be more reliable, though a rebuilt earlier engine may well be just as reliable. There are no guarantees though, so you'll want a warranty or a savings account. As far as I can tell they both amount to about £1000 p.a.

The biggest difference is the appearance, and you'll have to make your own decision there. For me, the Tamora was a bit of an ugly duckling, improving with later changes but never quite getting there. Your opinion could well be different.

The other differences, 3.6, 4.0, 4.0S, different differentials, etc. may sway you, but there are only really a handfull of either car to choose from, so your 'on paper preference' may not be available.

hth

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Saturday 19th December 2009
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RedSpike66 said:
TVR_owner said:
The Tuscan will have the torquier 4,0 litre engine as standard.
Tuscans were available in 3.6, 4.0 & 4.0S engine specs.
350, 360 & 380 bhp respectively I think, but with a fair bit more torque in 4.0 & 4.0S
Tuscan Vert is 4,0 or 4,0S, no 3,6.

nistock

92 posts

238 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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After my 1998 Chimaera, I bought a new 2005 Tamora. After 4 years of (almost) trouble free motoring, I changed to a 2006 Tuscan 2 convertible. The Tuscan is more comfortable, has more torque and a better ride quality, but the Tamora was slightly rawer, and possibly more fun. Both refresh the parts that porkers cannot reach!

T40ORA

5,177 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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It's my opinion only, and I don't mean this in a negative way, that the Tuscan is more of a tourer - and I know, no TVR is really such!

But more attention seems to have been given to looks and interior styling; they are prettier, and lend themselves much more to being a garage queen. You have to say that the looks of the Tamora are a bit Marmite compared to the universal praise given to the Tuscan.

On that note, it seems to me that the Tamora is more about a driven car than a looked at car. It seems a better, more compact package.

I've driven both but only owned the Tamora. And while I would undoubtedly love to have a Tuscan S II Convertible on the drive and mooching about at car shows and meetings, I would prefer to be driving the Tamora hard (well, what passes for hard in my limited ability).

Both are bloody lovely cars, and with a 4.0l engine in the Tamora you get the same power/torque package as the Tuscans. But to me, Tuscan = middle aged golf player, Tamora = hooligan.getmecoat

All IMHO of course.

So, are you a middle aged golf player or a hooligan? rofl

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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T40ORA said:
But to me, Tuscan = middle aged golf player, Tamora = hooligan.getmecoat
Well it seems my wife is a hooligan and I'm a middle aged golf player...not sure which to take that, but I think you're about right in terms of describing the cars.

T40ORA

5,177 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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TVR_owner said:
T40ORA said:
But to me, Tuscan = middle aged golf player, Tamora = hooligan.getmecoat
Well it seems my wife is a hooligan and I'm a middle aged golf player...not sure which to take that, but I think you're about right in terms of describing the cars.
I was hoping you'd see that John biggrin OK, a middle aged golf playing race driver.... Better? wink

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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T40ORA said:
TVR_owner said:
T40ORA said:
But to me, Tuscan = middle aged golf player, Tamora = hooligan.getmecoat
Well it seems my wife is a hooligan and I'm a middle aged golf player...not sure which to take that, but I think you're about right in terms of describing the cars.
I was hoping you'd see that John biggrin OK, a middle aged golf playing race driver.... Better? wink
I was quite happy being described as middle aged...it was the thought of the hooligan wife wink

T40ORA

5,177 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Scensoredt!

Don't tell Linda I said that....

Ah, crapola... she'll see herself. Oh well, live dangerously I say.

MrsS

454 posts

281 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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T40ORA said:
Scensoredt!

Don't tell Linda I said that....

Ah, crapola... she'll see herself. Oh well, live dangerously I say.
Are you going to Spain next year ?


T40ORA

5,177 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Sadly, no. Work is still pretty bad at the moment so we are, as they say, financially embarrassed.

Of course, if there is an amazing upturn then the answer will be yes.

You guys?

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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This is interesting. I could have sworn I head somewhere that the Tuscan - at least in its earlier incarnation - was trickier on the limit than the other T cars (Tamora included)? Probably another TVR myth, but I thought the Tamora was supposed to be somewhat more forgiving?

Zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Chris71 said:
This is interesting. I could have sworn I head somewhere that the Tuscan - at least in its earlier incarnation - was trickier on the limit than the other T cars (Tamora included)? Probably another TVR myth, but I thought the Tamora was supposed to be somewhat more forgiving?
The mk1 is, certainly on the original suspension set up!

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Zippee said:
Chris71 said:
This is interesting. I could have sworn I head somewhere that the Tuscan - at least in its earlier incarnation - was trickier on the limit than the other T cars (Tamora included)? Probably another TVR myth, but I thought the Tamora was supposed to be somewhat more forgiving?
The mk1 is, certainly on the original suspension set up!
Is it just setup? If you have the right springs, dampers and geometry settings on a Tuscan will it handle like a Tamora?

Of course no two road tests will reach the same conclusion, but the Tamoras and T350s always seemed to be painted as quite sweet handlings car (for unfettered 350+bhp rear wheel drive missiles).