What to expect going through police training?
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Hi Mungo,
Should be starting end March early April. Is the Hants a residential course?
I just need to complete the fitness test then thats it. I'm not worried about that as i race mountain bikes and cycle/run around two hundred miles a week - offroad.
You're starting soon aren't you?
All the best
Lee
Should be starting end March early April. Is the Hants a residential course?
I just need to complete the fitness test then thats it. I'm not worried about that as i race mountain bikes and cycle/run around two hundred miles a week - offroad.
You're starting soon aren't you?
All the best
Lee
At a risk of causing offence :
Week 1 : Personality Removal.
Week 2 : Removal of Racial Awareness.
Week 3 : Indoctrination. (General)
Week 4 : Indoctrination and Stereo Typing.
Week 5 : Learn to be hated and despised by all society who even though they hate you expect their full assistance in times of trouble.
Week 6 : How to be unfair.
Week 7 : Dealing with your own paranoia
Week 8 : How to track someone who takes the piss on websites and really has got it coming to him.
No seriously, just remember that not everyone is a criminal (unless they have a Liverpool accent), and not everyone hates you personally.(Although some law abiding citizens have good reason to hate the police. And always treat others the way you expect your granny to be treated. Also NEVER forget : You are doing the public a service. WE pay your wages ! And I know the Chief Constable if I chose to complain!
Week 1 : Personality Removal.
Week 2 : Removal of Racial Awareness.
Week 3 : Indoctrination. (General)
Week 4 : Indoctrination and Stereo Typing.
Week 5 : Learn to be hated and despised by all society who even though they hate you expect their full assistance in times of trouble.
Week 6 : How to be unfair.
Week 7 : Dealing with your own paranoia
Week 8 : How to track someone who takes the piss on websites and really has got it coming to him.
No seriously, just remember that not everyone is a criminal (unless they have a Liverpool accent), and not everyone hates you personally.(Although some law abiding citizens have good reason to hate the police. And always treat others the way you expect your granny to be treated. Also NEVER forget : You are doing the public a service. WE pay your wages ! And I know the Chief Constable if I chose to complain!
It is a lot to take on board....
However, my advice is to work hard during the day to try to retain the theory, and read it over for about an hour a night.
Off down the gym for circuits....and then get yourself down the bar....
...
It worked for me. (Some may say not though
)
Just noticed jackolah's post....
A word of advice, that is thet sort of ingrained mentality you are up against, and however hard you try you will always be percieved as racist, and sometimes even worse. Ignore it, go with common sense and if someone keeps playing the 'I pay your wages line' then don't let it bother you, just ask for a raise, especially after you have just locked them up.
Political correctness is paramount as is racial awareness, but it does not cloud judgement, and dont be afraid to act positively irrespective of ethnicity.
And indeed, proactive and fair policing is by far the best option.
>> Edited by silverback mike on Wednesday 28th January 14:07
However, my advice is to work hard during the day to try to retain the theory, and read it over for about an hour a night.
Off down the gym for circuits....and then get yourself down the bar....
... It worked for me. (Some may say not though
) Just noticed jackolah's post....
A word of advice, that is thet sort of ingrained mentality you are up against, and however hard you try you will always be percieved as racist, and sometimes even worse. Ignore it, go with common sense and if someone keeps playing the 'I pay your wages line' then don't let it bother you, just ask for a raise, especially after you have just locked them up.
Political correctness is paramount as is racial awareness, but it does not cloud judgement, and dont be afraid to act positively irrespective of ethnicity.
And indeed, proactive and fair policing is by far the best option.
>> Edited by silverback mike on Wednesday 28th January 14:07
jwo said:
just a quick one. Anyone know from the start of training how long you need to be in the force for before you can take advanced driving courses, firearm courses, close protection etc.? and how long these course take??
Ta!
I went through the basic training back in '97 (left shortly after) and since you're technically on probation for the first two years, I think you'll find that's the minimum time you'd need to do 'on the beat' before thinking about specialisation. Even then, rumour had it that many of the specialist units are 'dead mans shoes' to get into (unless you're a particularly gifted individual).
There's so much to learn in the initial stages that you probably wouldn't have time to do anything else!
DtM.
>> Edited by Duncanthemad on Wednesday 28th January 15:25
But don't forget to read and use that cookery book they are paying THOUSANDS of taxpayers' dosh for! Can't have you all bursting out of your uniforms from being sat in a talivan/patrol car all day - can we!
Must be part of your training package? Will you have an exam on it?
Read the bit about opening a can of beans carefully. From the article I read in the paper, you won't have to worry about long words! ('Twas in Monday's Daily Mail!)
Cheers
The Wildcat!
Must be part of your training package? Will you have an exam on it?
Read the bit about opening a can of beans carefully. From the article I read in the paper, you won't have to worry about long words! ('Twas in Monday's Daily Mail!)
Cheers
The Wildcat!
Mungo!
Yup! I'm a newcomer!
Just commenting upon story in Daily Mail (Monday) which appealed to my highly warped sense of humour!
The article about the Met Force was surreal! The cookery book in question is written "Jamie Oliver" style. I gather it has been written to promote health and fitness given the high volume of sedentary work most people in the Force do these days! (The article mentioned the cop cars! And the bit about how to cook baked beans!)
Since you were talking about courses - could not resist giving it a plug! You never know - they might give you copy of the book anyway!
Seriously, though - I hope those courses still have very high content of First Aid. I OWE my life to the level-headed cop who was on duty 13 years ago when the heart attack victim ploughed into me!
Cheers!
>> Edited by WildCat on Wednesday 28th January 16:31
Yup! I'm a newcomer!
Just commenting upon story in Daily Mail (Monday) which appealed to my highly warped sense of humour!
The article about the Met Force was surreal! The cookery book in question is written "Jamie Oliver" style. I gather it has been written to promote health and fitness given the high volume of sedentary work most people in the Force do these days! (The article mentioned the cop cars! And the bit about how to cook baked beans!)
Since you were talking about courses - could not resist giving it a plug! You never know - they might give you copy of the book anyway!
Seriously, though - I hope those courses still have very high content of First Aid. I OWE my life to the level-headed cop who was on duty 13 years ago when the heart attack victim ploughed into me!
Cheers!
>> Edited by WildCat on Wednesday 28th January 16:31
What week do you get greased up and become the senior instructors bitchthen 
.
No offence meant though
I assume that this type of course is very much biased towards those that are proactive and have an outgoing outlook on life.
Not that Mungo will need reminding, but be yourself not a 'me me me, aren't I great, I can play this game' as you might end up in a job that wasn't for you after all. Better to find out sooner rather than later i.e. during training/probation than as a bitter, twisted, vindictive 'waiting for me pension plod' further down the line, it'll affect more people than just yourself IMHO.
Harry
. No offence meant though
I assume that this type of course is very much biased towards those that are proactive and have an outgoing outlook on life.
Not that Mungo will need reminding, but be yourself not a 'me me me, aren't I great, I can play this game' as you might end up in a job that wasn't for you after all. Better to find out sooner rather than later i.e. during training/probation than as a bitter, twisted, vindictive 'waiting for me pension plod' further down the line, it'll affect more people than just yourself IMHO.
Harry
To answer a few of JWOs questions:
Yes, you have to be out of probation before you can specialise. As far as driving goes, most forces give recruits a basic driving course. This is usually 2 or 3 weeks long. It varies from force to force, most 3 week 'standard' courses permit officers to "respond" i.e. use blue lights/sirens. The sorter course will probably just give an authorisation to drive a panda/van/4x4 etc...
To drive more powerful cars, i.e an area car or traffic car, you usally have to be a minimum of a Class 3 or intermediate. This is usually a 5 week course. An Advanced Car Course is usually a further 3 or 4 weeks on top of that. Again, different forces do it different ways and structure their training differently.
There are other, more specialised courses, e.g. VIP Protection. For this you must be a advanced driver, and I believe the course is 2 weeks. You can do a surveillance driving course - you would ususally have to be a minimum of an intermediate and this is a 3 week course on top.
I no expert on Firearms Courses, and there have been changes recently in my force. All Officers go through an initial firearms course of 4 weeks. This is very tough, both mentally and physically. Typically, up to two thirds who start a course will not get through it. Success on this, and you may perform an Armed Response Vehicle role, or be part of a Tactical Firarms Team. Further courses are necessary for VIP work, snipers etc...
You can apply for firearms traing when out of probation, but most recruits will have more service say a minimum of 5 years, before being considered suitable.
Hope that answers a few questions.
Yes, you have to be out of probation before you can specialise. As far as driving goes, most forces give recruits a basic driving course. This is usually 2 or 3 weeks long. It varies from force to force, most 3 week 'standard' courses permit officers to "respond" i.e. use blue lights/sirens. The sorter course will probably just give an authorisation to drive a panda/van/4x4 etc...
To drive more powerful cars, i.e an area car or traffic car, you usally have to be a minimum of a Class 3 or intermediate. This is usually a 5 week course. An Advanced Car Course is usually a further 3 or 4 weeks on top of that. Again, different forces do it different ways and structure their training differently.
There are other, more specialised courses, e.g. VIP Protection. For this you must be a advanced driver, and I believe the course is 2 weeks. You can do a surveillance driving course - you would ususally have to be a minimum of an intermediate and this is a 3 week course on top.
I no expert on Firearms Courses, and there have been changes recently in my force. All Officers go through an initial firearms course of 4 weeks. This is very tough, both mentally and physically. Typically, up to two thirds who start a course will not get through it. Success on this, and you may perform an Armed Response Vehicle role, or be part of a Tactical Firarms Team. Further courses are necessary for VIP work, snipers etc...
You can apply for firearms traing when out of probation, but most recruits will have more service say a minimum of 5 years, before being considered suitable.
Hope that answers a few questions.
UIL9794 said:
Duncan,
If it's not to personel why did you leave - most people i know already serving love the job on most parts. Most of those guys have previously worked in industry/office type backgrounds.
Cheers
Lee
Lee,
At the risk of boring people, I can give you the short version which is basically that it was a combination of numerous different factors. The main ones being that it was my first job after Uni and I was a little short on 'real life' experience (i.e naiive), I had three too many personal issues going on at the same time I was training, I had some issues with my tutor constable and I wasn't that great at dealing with confrontational situations (the way in which I was expected to deal with them).
However, and this is the important bit, even to this day, I don't regret a single second of it. I learnt so much about myself as a person and about the real world in general, it's given me many valuable experiences (some of which most people will only see at the cinema) - plus the added bonus is that I don't get intimidated by the Police since I know exactly what they can and can't do
Seriously though, now that I'm older (and hopefully slightly wiser), if I'd joined at this stage in my life I would of had no problems and would, I'm sure, have thoroughly enjoyed the life (and it is a life, not just a job
). DtM.
mungo said:
silverback mike said:
if someone keeps playing the 'I pay your wages line' then don't let it bother you, just ask for a raise
Laugh out loud moment!
It's certainly a line I have stored for future use
How rude of you, shirley you precede it with 'Thank you' followed by 'any chance of a raise'
Or, if its out and out scrout/peasant, then 'I know, but the sad thing is I probably pay more tax anyway'
, partivculary applicable to those that attended the miners strike by all accounts. Harry
mungo said:
Harry - You ain't far wrong!
My brother hears that line from some of his "customers" he then asks them what they do and they are like "err... I, err... sign on" then he tells them HE pays their dole.
Knowing James he probably finishes it up with "... so SHUT IT"
>> Edited by mungo on Wednesday 28th January 23:05
Perhaps you should also remind them that you pay for their keep as well once the pair of you have banged them up!
Well, I have the utmost respect for the BiB, as indeed our armed forces also.
I would think it's one of the most rewarding jobs going, in job satisfaction, every day is different, you learn a hell of a lot about yourself, and when you eventually retire you can look back and think that was miles better than spending thirty years behind a desk nine till five.
The only drag I would think would be the shift work, but you can't have everything...
Good luck Mungo btw......
I would think it's one of the most rewarding jobs going, in job satisfaction, every day is different, you learn a hell of a lot about yourself, and when you eventually retire you can look back and think that was miles better than spending thirty years behind a desk nine till five.
The only drag I would think would be the shift work, but you can't have everything...
Good luck Mungo btw......
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