Combi boiler help/ expert advice required pls - Uddingston
Combi boiler help/ expert advice required pls - Uddingston
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kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Hi all,

I'm a regular on the TV&S PH forum, and 400 miles from home at my inlaws in Scotland. After enjoying a brilliant sledging day, we came home to find the boiler had thrown an error code frown

I'm hoping someone on here is either a gas fitter, or just has some knowledge of what might be up with it. I'm pretty handy with fixing most things but just need some advice on what to check next.

Its a Potterton Promax Combi HE Plus, and installed 18 months ago

Error code is 133 - Interruption of Gas Supply or Flame Failure

We still have gas pressure in the house, as the cooker works as normal.
Water pressure is 1.5 Bar
Flue exit is clear
Water overflow from condensor is checked and clear (not frozen smile )
Pump runs as normal
Fan runs as normal
Connections for spark ignition electrodes and flame sensing electrodes are checked ok
We have not checked for gas at the burner itself, nor purged the gas as I did not know how to do this.
There is good spark at the ignition electrode (after each reset it sparks for 3 attempts, for 5 seconds each time).
However the burner does not light, and then the error code comes up frown

We have electric heaters, so we (and the wee kids who have about 3 layers on in bed wink )won't be cold tonight. If someone has an idea on what it could be, I will head out to get whatever parts are needed tomorrow- in the snow friendly Disco. Otherwise if someone is anywhere remotely local to Uddingston, we would really appreciate a quick call out in exchange for christmas cash wink

Many thanks in advance
Fraser

fluffnik

20,156 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Cut the power to it to force a hard reset?

kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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fluffnik said:
Cut the power to it to force a hard reset?
Didn't think of that. Off to try it now...

kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

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Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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kiwifraser said:
fluffnik said:
Cut the power to it to force a hard reset?
Didn't think of that. Off to try it now...
No luck, still bringing up the same code frown

sploosh

822 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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copy of manual here

http://www.bhl.co.uk/uploads/article1469/Potterton...

Fault finding guide at the end - worth a try

kiwifraser

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216 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Cheers Sploosh. We luckily had a copy left with us when they installed it, and have been working our way through it this evening. We are now at a dead end, as it states either replacing the PCB, or checking/replacing the Gas Valve and checking the CO2 levels. At the moment, I'm hoping to find a plumber/ CH engineer/ Gas fitter tomorrow

kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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After a second hard reset (rcd off for 10 minutes), it miraculously all started up again. Not sure if it will keep going, but for now it all looks to be sorted bounce

Cheers all for the help thumbup

fluffnik

20,156 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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kiwifraser said:
After a second hard reset (rcd off for 10 minutes), it miraculously all started up again. Not sure if it will keep going, but for now it all looks to be sorted bounce

Cheers all for the help thumbup
Hope it holds out, heating engineers are hard to find between October and May!

kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Well the excitement was short lived, and its cold again. Not surprising since Glasgow was -7 degrees outside overnight

It stopped again about 4am, and now won't reset.

After checking all the quick fixes, it seems like gas valve has gone and no gas is going into the combustion chamber.

It's heating engineer time I think. Anyone PH'ers know one please?

Marian

1,860 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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James Ralston 07753124938 Tell him Tom Barr gave you his number.

kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Marian said:
James Ralston 07753124938 Tell him Tom Barr gave you his number.
Thank you! Will give him a bell now.

btw Lovely Cerb you have there thumbup

Marian

1,860 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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kiwifraser said:
Marian said:
James Ralston 07753124938 Tell him Tom Barr gave you his number.
Thank you! Will give him a bell now.

btw Lovely Cerb you have there thumbup
Let me know how you get on and thanks for the comments re the Cerb

kiwifraser

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216 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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No luck with most engineers calling back today, except for John Reid in Kirkintilloch thumbup He was brilliant, and really happy to help me out (a friend of a fellow PHer).

After 10 minutes with the multimeter checking voltages and resistance on key components, it turns out the PCB is stuffed (£116 + VAT), and the overheat stat is a bit dodgy too (£16 + VAT). Apparently they are a very cheap boiler, and prone to problems. I couldn't get a new PCB as they are out of stock at the 2 biggest plumbing merchants in Glasgow. British Gas are one of the only ones to fit the boiler model, as they are the cheapest available on the market. The good news is that they should have stock of the PCB on the van.

We have a BG engineer coming tomorrow for a one off cost guaranteed fix solution. Fingers crossed they have the parts.