GT-R Camber settings
GT-R Camber settings
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niall1717

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155 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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It seems that the standard camber settings (even the standard 'road' setting) wear the tyres prematurely when driven mainly on the road. The extra camber leads to tyre wear on the shoulder (outside I think?) meaning you need a very expensive new set of rubber after around 6000 miles even though 70% + of the tyres' surface area is not worn. I was wondering whether there is an easily achieved camber setting which keeps the whole tyre surface in contact with the road at 'normal' speeds. I realise this will compromise handling slightly but it is unlikely to be noticeable unless you take to the track, which I wouldn't. (I don't own a GTR yet - this is one of a few concerns I want to address before I take the plunge) Thanks.

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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niall1717 said:
It seems that the standard camber settings (even the standard 'road' setting) wear the tyres prematurely when driven mainly on the road. The extra camber leads to tyre wear on the shoulder (outside I think?) meaning you need a very expensive new set of rubber after around 6000 miles even though 70% + of the tyres' surface area is not worn. I was wondering whether there is an easily achieved camber setting which keeps the whole tyre surface in contact with the road at 'normal' speeds. I realise this will compromise handling slightly but it is unlikely to be noticeable unless you take to the track, which I wouldn't. (I don't own a GTR yet - this is one of a few concerns I want to address before I take the plunge) Thanks.
If you can't afford tires every 6000 miles maybe you can't afford a GT-R?

The brake pads on the V-Spec are like 10 grand a pop right?


niall1717

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155 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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Yes I can afford them, I just have better things to spend money on if it is avoidable.

Edited by niall1717 on Wednesday 23 December 22:31

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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You will be able to get adjustable camber arms etc if you want to customise the suspension set up.

Godzilla

2,034 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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The GT-R actually allows relatively little negative camber (max is 1.6 degrees) and on road settings, driven on the road should wear the tyres fairly evenly.
The Dunlops it comes on are a soft compound summer tyre, but many have seen 10,000 miles or more on their original set.

My front pair were shot after 5000 miles but actually only on the OUTER shoulders after a few track days. The Bridgestone alternatives are 30% cheaper than the Dunlops and are supposed to last a LOT longer. That is what I have now.

niall1717

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155 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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OK that sounds promising - so the standard 'road' setting and some Bridgestones and hopefully we are looking at 15000 miles or so (with no track work)? Getting very close to buying now...

peterpeter

6,438 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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Godzilla said:
The GT-R actually allows relatively little negative camber (max is 1.6 degrees) and on road settings, driven on the road should wear the tyres fairly evenly.
The Dunlops it comes on are a soft compound summer tyre, but many have seen 10,000 miles or more on their original set.

My front pair were shot after 5000 miles but actually only on the OUTER shoulders after a few track days. The Bridgestone alternatives are 30% cheaper than the Dunlops and are supposed to last a LOT longer. That is what I have now.
David

I have smaller versions of those RE070s on my scoob STI
Im thinking of changing to those on the GTR when my dunlops go because Im not totally convinced about the wet grip on the dunlops.
The wet grip on the scoob is acceptable but not fantastic

how have you found the bridgestones? are they noticably different to the dunlops?

did you get them from camskill?


SmoothRB

1,700 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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Do some trackwork. It's what the car is designed for.

If you just want to pose get a Porsche.;)

Godzilla

2,034 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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niall1717 said:
OK that sounds promising - so the standard 'road' setting and some Bridgestones and hopefully we are looking at 15000 miles or so (with no track work)? Getting very close to buying now...
Yes, easily on Bridgestones. Simon Croft (head of Nissan Sport Europe) originally told me we wouldn't be getting the Dunlops as standard because they were primarily a dry track tyre and the Bridgestones (as fitted in Japan and the US) last "three times as long".

But the overwhelming kudos of having the "Nurburgring tyres" meant that EDM cars came with them as standard.

Godzilla

2,034 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th December 2009
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peterpeter said:
Godzilla said:
The GT-R actually allows relatively little negative camber (max is 1.6 degrees) and on road settings, driven on the road should wear the tyres fairly evenly.
The Dunlops it comes on are a soft compound summer tyre, but many have seen 10,000 miles or more on their original set.

My front pair were shot after 5000 miles but actually only on the OUTER shoulders after a few track days. The Bridgestone alternatives are 30% cheaper than the Dunlops and are supposed to last a LOT longer. That is what I have now.
David

I have smaller versions of those RE070s on my scoob STI
Im thinking of changing to those on the GTR when my dunlops go because Im not totally convinced about the wet grip on the dunlops.
The wet grip on the scoob is acceptable but not fantastic

how have you found the bridgestones? are they noticably different to the dunlops?

did you get them from camskill?
Hey PP, yes from Camskill, £1117 inc VAT and delivery, not bad.
They have marginally less grip overall than the Dunlops but are far more progressive, very easy to play with in the wet without snappiness.
I feel more confident with them in marginal conditions than the Dunlops.

niall1717

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155 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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SmoothRB said:
Do some trackwork. It's what the car is designed for.

If you just want to pose get a Porsche.;)
If I just wanted to pose it wouldn't be a porsche! Lambo maybe. As for what the car is for - it's for whatever you want to use it for. I have never been one to follow the crowd.

bobd

973 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Similar type posts on the GTR forum from you also. Look if you really are worried about tyre wear then stop. Bridgestones are £1100.00 and the Dunlops are twice the price. How much do you think the tyres for a Lambo would be. If the tyres are to be useless at 6000 miles then fair dos, but there are alternatives. As per the Bridgestones. Incidentally Nissan used Pirellis for the GTR academy, but they were not runflats.
Just go and buy a GTR and stop worrying. Speak to Andy at Middlehursts they have quite a few in stock.
You get a real Supercar for Cayman money that will leave most things standing at twice the price and a 3 year warranty.
The car really beggars belief on the road, prescence, comfort, speed, acceleration, boot what more do you want. On track its awesome.
As for modifying it as per your posts across the dark side - no need - but nice to have.
If you do for £1200 you have a car that will do 193mph, 3.2 0-62, 7.6 0-100 with 550bhp, 540lb/ft, where else can you get that kind of performance.
Take the plunge.

niall1717

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155 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Bob, you are quite correct which is why that is exactly what I have decided to do smile

bobd

973 posts

244 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Well done - just dont get black as there are paint issues.

icebite78

290 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Why here is only 1 known issue with a black car and thats not to mention the white plus black is easily what the Gtr looks fantastic in imho of course thats what colour ive ordered so im a little biased

bobd

973 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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icebite78 said:
Why here is only 1 known issue with a black car and thats not to mention the white plus black is easily what the Gtr looks fantastic in imho of course thats what colour ive ordered so im a little biased
Just that all the cars I have seen were very swirl marked - even the ones that had not yet left the showroom.
Of course its your choice as you say.
I ordered Ultimate Silver based on what I had seen, although if Nissan would have made blue then I would have gone that direction.

niall1717

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Thursday 31st December 2009
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Gunmetal Grey for me, or possibly red

bobd

973 posts

244 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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Yes, Yes, Yes, good hunting and enjoy

papercup

2,493 posts

243 months

Friday 1st January 2010
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bobd said:
Well done - just dont get black as there are paint issues.
The white has issues as well; i went up against one at a sprint at Goodwood and the owner was pointing out how the rear bumper was a completely different shade to the rear wings....

Not all that impressive.