I've always wondered...
I've always wondered...
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shalmaneser

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6,267 posts

216 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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How you boys keep drag engines cool?

You can never see any sign of a rad on any of the top fuel drag cars, presumably there must be some kind of cooling? I'm aware that these engines pretty much grenade themselves doing the run but surely you don't run them dry? I'd have thought they'd weld themselves together after about half the run if that was the case, and the cost of skimming heads would be prohibitive - you'd go through two heads every few runs when you ran out of metal to mill away!

Or do you just have a closed circulation cooling system with no radiator? This seems like the most likely solution to me, given the amount of cooling a rad would do in a 1/4 mile run would be minimal (read: none). lighter too i guess, which is only going to be an advantage.

Benni

3,684 posts

232 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Well, there are different sorts of race cars with different cooling systems.
Up to SC/SPET/CC cooling sytems are quite common,
with radiators, water pumps etc, all lightweight and high performance stuff.

I am not sure about Pro Mod Cars but think they run some sort of cooling system,
mostly the nitrous version, the blown methanol PMs don´t need a cooling system because the methanol
keeps the engine running cool because of the "evaporation temperature downfall" (wd)
The same goes for Top Methanol Dragsters and Funny Cars.

Top Fuel also runs without any cooling system at all, it is not needed in the ~90 secs the burnout, return and run takes.
The engine block can also be made much more rigid if it is "solid" without coolant passages.

All this from my limited second-hand experience, if I am wrong the drivers and tech experts around here
will no doubt correct me.

badbird

171 posts

208 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Prety much spot on N20 PM and pro stock have water cooling radiators ect the blown methanol and fuel stuff dont regardless of the class of car

shalmaneser

Original Poster:

6,267 posts

216 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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wow so the engine block and head is solid aluminium on Pro Mod?

anonymous-user

75 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Yup, all machined from billet aluminium.

kestral

2,104 posts

228 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
Yup, all machined from billet aluminium.
Made like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o&fea...

WARNING! This is hard core engineering porn.View at your own risk. eek

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

226 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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kestral said:
Rat_Fink_67 said:
Yup, all machined from billet aluminium.
Made like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o&fea...

WARNING! This is hard core engineering porn.View at your own risk. eek
Matsuura 5 axis MAM72-63V Does Dallas?

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

226 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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NHRA to lower ETs with smaller engines!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NaWeYrSiYk&fea...

BennettRacing

729 posts

232 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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kestral said:
Rat_Fink_67 said:
Yup, all machined from billet aluminium.
Made like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o&fea...

WARNING! This is hard core engineering porn.View at your own risk. eek
Thats bloody brilliant. I'd love to have the money to buy a machine like that.