Golf conundrum
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macp

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4,823 posts

214 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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We have decided to look at MKV Golfs and today have been looking around and come to the following conclusion.

GTi 2.0T(petrol) 60-70k miles £10-11k

GT TDi DPF 170bhp 60-70k miles £10-11k

GT TDi 140bhp 60-70k miles £7-8k

We do around 10-12,000mls per year so on that basis you would probably select the GTi petrol.But please correct me if Im wrong the GTI will cost more to tax & insure and will obviously use more juice.The servicing is also more frequent for the petrol?

The only real downside I can think of for the diesels is the reliability issue?

Lastly is the TDi 170bhp really 2 or 3k better in respect of performance and specification than the 140bhp?

There is also the 'feck it' response and just get the GTi because its so much better than all of them.

Would really appreciate thoughts and comments.

Many thanks




Edited by macp on Sunday 27th December 18:39

macp

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Sunday 27th December 2009
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Any thoughts ?

UpTheIron

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299 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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macp said:
just get the GTi because its so much better than all of them
This.

The oil burners will use less (more expensive) fuel, but that's it. Petrol will be better to drive.

macp

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Sunday 27th December 2009
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UpTheIron said:
macp said:
just get the GTi because its so much better than all of them
This.

The oil burners will use less (more expensive) fuel, but that's it. Petrol will be better to drive.
I guess its unfair to ask these questions on a forum such as PH and I agree about the petrol.However put it this way I need to sell it to the wife.

Deerfoot

5,257 posts

215 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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UpTheIron said:
The oil burners will use less (more expensive) fuel, but that's it.
Diesel is a massive 1p per litre more expensive than petrol in my area.......

I`d drive all three and then decide, I had the 140bhp TDI engine in a Passat estate for a while and while it obviously wasn`t fast it was adequate. I`d imagine the 170bhp engine in the Golf to be OK.


Seez

656 posts

211 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Personally I would disregard the 140 tdi immediately, the 170 is better I believe if it is the CR diesel.

Further to this you can remap the diesel but you can also do this to the petrol if you want more.

Both will have different driving characteristics, the petrol will be smoother quieter, but the diesel will have more torque and offer a swifter drive if you like to drive in one gear or without reving the nuts off it.

It is a tough choice between the two and although the diesel will be better on fuel it comes down to how you like to drive... If you like to rev a car around to the red line get the petrol if you like to stick in gear and not bother changing gear so much then get the diesel!

Both can be uprated if you are finding a shortage of power.

Edited by Seez on Monday 28th December 09:44


Edited by Seez on Monday 28th December 09:44

macp

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4,823 posts

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Monday 28th December 2009
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Deerfoot said:
UpTheIron said:
The oil burners will use less (more expensive) fuel, but that's it.
Diesel is a massive 1p per litre more expensive than petrol in my area.......

I`d drive all three and then decide, I had the 140bhp TDI engine in a Passat estate for a while and while it obviously wasn`t fast it was adequate. I`d imagine the 170bhp engine in the Golf to be OK.
I have driven the 140 & the 170bhp.The 140 was fine but the 170 was definitely in a different league performance wise and even has a sporty exhaust note.I havent driven the GTi but if Jeremy Clarkson reckons its the dogs then I believe it.

VadMan

46 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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GTi any day biggrin I'm actually looking to buy one in the next year or so. The thing about petrol veedubs is that they are so refined, you can have fun when you need to, but stick it in 6th and drive normally and it will return just shy of 40mpg at ease.

If however you decide to go for the diesel, I would recommend the 140, as it is cheaper to buy and insure and can easily be mapped by someone like Revo to give you that extra power.

V

16,118 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Seez said:
Personally I would disregard the 140 tdi immediately, the 170 is better I believe if it is the CR diesel.
No, both are PD, but the 170 is worse as its less smooth and equipped with a DPF which clogs easily.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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DPF's on PD engines can be problematic.

The 170 is much faster and more entertaining to drive, but power band is narrower and delivery less smooth + the DPF can be a problem depending on how the car is driven.

Pugmitch

91 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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The 170 PD can be problematic in relation to the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) but only if you potter around the city a lot.....exhaust doesn't get hot enough to burn off the particulates. In two years of ownership I've only had the DPF light show in the recent cold weather when temperature dropped to -14! Quickly solved by a quick blast up the local dual carriageway.....problem solved. To be fair to the local stealers they did tell me that the DPF could be a problem with city driving so if you do live in the city or do short trips and you buy one then it's hardly fair to complain.....but that's people for you
It's really a matter of choice - diesel to save a little on fuel; petrols are definitely smoother. The 170 power delivery is fast and furious......I just love it!!