... and so the Labour vote buying begins!
... and so the Labour vote buying begins!
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youngsyr

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14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Seems that even with the budget defecit, there's still enough money to be handing out free PCs left, right and centre. Oh, you have to be likely to vote labour in the upcoming general election though, of course.

Telegraph said:
Free computers for deprived families

Children from 270,000 families will receive a free home computer as part of a Government drive to close the gap in educational achievement between the wealthy and less well off.

Poor families will also receive 12 months’ free internet use under the terms of the Home Access scheme, launched next year, which will allow parents to spend up to £500 on a computer from an approved list.

The move is part of a bid by ministers to drive up standards in deprived areas, with the white working classes thought to be at particular risk of being left behind.

Vernon Coaker, the Schools Minister, said: “We want to give every pupil personalised learning.

“The internet packages are like classrooms being beamed into the home.

“Instead of sitting in from of a television they have learning classes straight into their bedrooms or front rooms where parents can see what is going on.

“The involvement of parents is crucial because they look at what children are learning and then read, count and do activities with them.”

The scheme will be available to children aged seven to 13 who are currently eligible for free school meals – open to those from households with an income of less than £16,040 a year.

In pilot schemes covering 9,000 families in Suffolk and Oldham, Greater Manchester, some children improved academically by as much as two GCSE grades.

Around a million children are thought to live in homes which do not have access to the internet.

Just one in five boys on free school meal passes five good GCSEs including math and English.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6900319/Free-computers-for-deprived-families.html

remedy

2,287 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Telegraph said:
the white working classes thought to be at particular risk of being left behind.
That's racist.

FourWheelDrift

92,307 posts

314 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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270,000 cheap PCs on Ebay very soon.

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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[quote=youngsyr]Seems that even with the budget defecit, there's still enough money to be handing out free PCs left, right and centre. Oh, you have to be likely to vote labour in the upcoming general election though, of course.
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Do you consider tax cuts to be vote buying?

Frederick

5,893 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
270,000 cheap PCs on Ebay very soon.
Cash Converters surely...

<CHAV> "Ow am a gunna get me muny when ave just sold me free PC on ebay, but a can't get on ebay to claim me pay pal, coz a havvint got a PC any more" </CHAV>

FourWheelDrift

92,307 posts

314 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Good point.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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remedy said:
Telegraph said:
the white working classes thought to be at particular risk of being left behind.
That's racist.
It's true though.

White working class boys are the worst performers at school, by a huge margin.

Turbo5

594 posts

241 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Lots of bogus insurance claims coming when they have sold them. The PC's should be marked up so they can't be sold on. What happens in a couple of years when they become out of date or they get damaged ?
Why couldn't they use the millions of PCs that are thrown away each year because the owners want something faster ?

youngsyr

Original Poster:

14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Fittster said:
youngsyr said:
Seems that even with the budget defecit, there's still enough money to be handing out free PCs left, right and centre. Oh, you have to be likely to vote labour in the upcoming general election though, of course.
Do you consider tax cuts to be vote buying?
Only if they're specifically targetted at marginal or core voters.

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 29th December 19:46

youngsyr

Original Poster:

14,742 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Just noticed this as well...

Telegraph said:
...Just one in five boys on free school meal passes five good GCSEs including math and English.
It seems there are now "good" and "bad" GCSEs, our whole public sector is a mess.

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 29th December 19:49

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Would it not be simpler just to announce that the workshy are to be given a fags and booze allowance?

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Turbo5 said:
Lots of bogus insurance claims coming when they have sold them. The PC's should be marked up so they can't be sold on. What happens in a couple of years when they become out of date or they get damaged ?
Why couldn't they use the millions of PCs that are thrown away each year because the owners want something faster ?
As on a commercial scale someone is paid to remove them who then sell them on to other countries.

Taita

7,997 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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My Mum's school is involved in this. They think it is a great idea.

Apparently they are given a sort of credit card with £X00 on it, redeemable in PC World et al.

They will all need to be non-admins on the machines imo otherwise they will be riddled. Can't see LEA IT letting them on the LAN!

Edited by Taita on Tuesday 29th December 20:29

tank slapper

7,949 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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The vote buying begins? Surely that was May 1997.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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tank slapper said:
The vote buying begins? Surely that was May 1997.
yes

The bloated public service is stuffed with people affraid to vote for anybody except nu-labour, cant see a great demand for diversity officers in the private sector wink

Every budget has been aimed at the feckless, the stupid and the lazy .................labours core vote

the_smalls

1,003 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
tank slapper said:
The vote buying begins? Surely that was May 1997.
yes

The bloated public service is stuffed with people affraid to vote for anybody except nu-labour, cant see a great demand for diversity officers in the private sector wink

Every budget has been aimed at the feckless, the stupid and the lazy .................labours core vote
That's the problem though - this core vote of Labour's is growing since the incentive is there to do nothing except watch Sky, drink booze and smoke fags. Could we be in a situation where the core Labour vote gets so large that they could never lose power? I dread the thought, but I suspect not - the British economy would be decimated for that to happen - i.e. keep spending more than it earns to pay for the votes, inevitable credit rating downgrade, sterling does it's arse, inflation here we come. I just hope the general public understand the predicament we as a country are facing.

The next government, whoever they are, will have to take drastic action. I hope joe public doesn't just think "higher taxes, less services = bad". That's the required medicine after 10 years of a profligate Labour government I'm afraid. Unless it's appreciated that the medicine is required. When will the fking stupid public realise that you can't spend more than you earn ad infinitum, be you a household or a country.

I getting fking angry about that smug tt Spaz Lightyear (aka McBroon/Winky Mcfktard) just by typing this. We need a PM prepared to run the country - that means being unpopular sometimes, for the greater good.

Won't someone please think of the children?

rage
ranting
banghead

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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youngsyr said:
Fittster said:
youngsyr said:
Seems that even with the budget defecit, there's still enough money to be handing out free PCs left, right and centre. Oh, you have to be likely to vote labour in the upcoming general election though, of course.
Do you consider tax cuts to be vote buying?
Only if they're specifically targetted at marginal or core voters.
So that would be Inheritance tax, the Conservatives are just as bad as Labour. Changing the monkeys in charge won’t fix the problem, it is the system that must be changed.

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

281 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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elster said:
remedy said:
Telegraph said:
the white working classes thought to be at particular risk of being left behind.
That's racist.
It's true though.

White working class boys are the worst performers at school, by a huge margin.
But we've been told for the past few years that it's black, inner city boys who are the worst performers . . . hence the investment in their education.

Do Labour know who is not achieving or do they just take a guess each year and dish out the dosh as they feel . . . ?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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tank slapper said:
The vote buying begins? Surely that was May 1997.
No earlier then that around 1265

pkitchen

1,747 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Fittster said:
youngsyr said:
Fittster said:
youngsyr said:
Seems that even with the budget defecit, there's still enough money to be handing out free PCs left, right and centre. Oh, you have to be likely to vote labour in the upcoming general election though, of course.
Do you consider tax cuts to be vote buying?
Only if they're specifically targetted at marginal or core voters.
So that would be Inheritance tax, the Conservatives are just as bad as Labour. Changing the monkeys in charge won’t fix the problem, it is the system that must be changed.
yes