AVATAR 3D in the home ?
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nick heppinstall

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8,758 posts

301 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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Went to see Avatar last night in 3d. It was pretty amazing. The only 3d film I had seen previously was Creature from the Black Lagoon about 30 years ago.

If they produced a 3d DVD version of Avatar for the home identical to the Cinema release would it work ?

I understand the fancy digital techniques use to produce the 3d but their is no interaction between the glasses you wear and the projector.

Is their something stopping a modern tv displaying the image ?

Marf

22,907 posts

262 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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nick heppinstall said:
Is their something stopping a modern tv displaying the image ?
Refresh rates not being fast enough I believe. Happy to be corrected though smile

BringbacktheP&P

1,943 posts

225 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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What did you spolil?

spandexx

944 posts

297 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...

nick heppinstall

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301 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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[quote=BringbacktheP&P]What did you spolil?
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Spoiled a Hot Dog while I was their. Pretty pissed off about that LOL.

Sent that post from my iPod. It decided to put spoilers.... mmmm

nick heppinstall

Original Poster:

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301 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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spandexx said:
Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...
I've changed the title.

rich0411

234 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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I would guess it's possible I have seen the following for sale..

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/9151694/My-Bloo...

I also went too see Avatar 3D awesome film!

MrV

2,748 posts

249 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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Pretty much the old style of 3d spec's (one red one green lens)when it comes to modern films for home viewing rather than the new polarised glass's you where in the cinema

How well that will work with Avatar is anyones guess smile

Morningside

24,143 posts

250 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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How about two projectors (for each eye) but perfectly aligned and using the LCD shutter method.

big dub

4,075 posts

238 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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They are working on the technology to do this, was mentioned on The Gadget Show before Xmas. Would think it will be at least 5 years before we see something for the home.

RizzoTheRat

27,682 posts

213 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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spandexx said:
Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...
That's suggesting the Sky system uses polarisation like the cinemas rather than coloured filters like TV systems usually use. In a cinema thay can used polarised filters over the projectors but how are they going to get a TV to produce polarised light?

MaximumJed

745 posts

253 months

Monday 4th January 2010
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3D home projectors already available starting at about £700, though they use high refresh rates and active shutter glasses. The standard for 3D BluRay discs has also been set. There will also be TVs released pretty soon that can do 3D as well, given that Sky are going to start doing 3D shows on their HD boxes this year.

nick heppinstall

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301 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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spandexx said:
Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...
Thanks for that. Interesting read.

JagLover

45,508 posts

256 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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Not everyone is welcoming the new 3D films.

My wife didn't want to see Avatar at the cinema because our local one was showing it in 3D.

Even with the new glasses I believe you still have problems with headaches and so forth.

hairyben

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204 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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JagLover said:
Not everyone is welcoming the new 3D films.

My wife didn't want to see Avatar at the cinema because our local one was showing it in 3D.

Even with the new glasses I believe you still have problems with headaches and so forth.
Yeah I dunno how it compares to the older IMAX stuff but I've come out of a 40 min film not with a headache as such, but feeling pretty fatigued. GF wanted to see avatar the other night but I wasn't in the mood, nigh on 3 hours will push the limit. Plus I've found the IMAX stuff very "false" looking, very gimmicky, wheras HD films look deeper and more realistic.

I doubt domestic 3D will go big very soon, or is evan worth buying yet given there's a big ol jolly format war in the offing. Aside from that I can't see too many people wanting to buy new tech so soon after investing in HD equipment, which itself hasn't exactly been embraced, having been stunted by the HD media format war.

nick heppinstall

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301 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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JagLover said:
Not everyone is welcoming the new 3D films.

My wife didn't want to see Avatar at the cinema because our local one was showing it in 3D.

Even with the new glasses I believe you still have problems with headaches and so forth.
Well I can only say from my own experience but I came out of Avatar with non of the above symptoms.

dave_s13

13,966 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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RizzoTheRat said:
spandexx said:
Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...
That's suggesting the Sky system uses polarisation like the cinemas rather than coloured filters like TV systems usually use. In a cinema thay can used polarised filters over the projectors but how are they going to get a TV to produce polarised light?
Yes, How please somebody?

Also, how do they go about transferring old movie prints to 3D, as the article suggests?

varsas

4,071 posts

223 months

Tuesday 5th January 2010
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dave_s13 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
spandexx said:
Topic title is not the best, but this article is good and explains things well:

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/the-compl...
That's suggesting the Sky system uses polarisation like the cinemas rather than coloured filters like TV systems usually use. In a cinema thay can used polarised filters over the projectors but how are they going to get a TV to produce polarised light?
Yes, How please somebody?

Also, how do they go about transferring old movie prints to 3D, as the article suggests?
Well, it's not that difficult, not a lot more difficult then switching the filters that turn each red,green,blue part of the pixel on/off. An LCD TV already does most of what needs to be done, it's 'just' another filter that gets put over the top evry other frame.

What sky can't do is get your tv to produce polarised light; you'll have to buy a new one.

As for making 3D versions of films...well I guess it'll be like colourising them. I don't really see that going too well though (certainly not something I'm interested in). Obviouslty the CGI elements of films (or the entire film if it's all CGI like a pixar film) can be made 3D very easily by just re-rendering them.

For what it's worth I can't see home 3D being much more then a gimmick for a long time. You'll need a very good (v.high contrast and brightness, refresh rate etc), quite large TV and higher resolution then Blu-ray offers to make it work well.

As for people getting headaches and stuff that's a shame; you're missing out but it's not like you can't watch the film at all. All I would say is don't compare the current system to the older film based 3D. The picture is much more stable so should be easier to watch.

Mroad

829 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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Bluray 3D standards have been finalised by the Bluray Disc Association.
You will need a Bluray 3D player, IR transmitter and glasses. Yep glasses are required but it will be 1080p to each eye.
It is likely you will need a high refresh rate TV, 200Hz possibly as a minimum (100Hz each eye) although nothing has been confirmed.
The PS3 will support Bluray 3D via software update.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/blu-ray-3d-spec...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10417449-1.htm...

Edited by Mroad on Wednesday 6th January 00:18

red rider

209 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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I have not seen Avatar but have heared that the 3D is amazing, how does it compare to 3D films in an imax cinema? I have seen a few imax 3D films and thought that the 3D was amazingn then. I got to be honest i can not imagine the 3D in Avatar being much better/different. Can anyone compare the both am i to be proven wrong.