Cerbera Wheels
Cerbera Wheels
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pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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What exactly do I need to do to put them on the Wedge. Thinking of getting a set for the daily jaunt & keeping the OZ's for best. thumbup

_Absinthe_

102 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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I dont have the car in my posession at the mo, so can't get exact details off the rims, but I have a set of 16x7.5's on mine at the mo that I obtained from 'RogTallBloke'. They had a slightly different PCD originally apparently but were machined to fit. If you need further details I can drop you a line when I get the car back, but it prob won't be for a couple of weeks yet.

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Difference in PCD is 112 and 114.3ish (4.5")

I know someone who has a nice set of 16" rims for sale if you're interested.

Can't remember the ETs properly. Could be 23 for the Wedge and 35 for the Cerb.

pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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JR said:

I know someone who has a nice set of 16" rims for sale if you're interested.
Could be, any pictures?

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Ive got a few sets of the cerbera wheels and have tried fitting them, ive been told you can get off set washers from fleebay to fit them or have a little machining done to make perfict.
They look prity good on the car

Cambelt


pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Hi Campbell, you don't fancy parting with a set do you?

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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pwd95 said:
Hi Campbell, you don't fancy parting with a set do you?
Yes I do,
PM me and ill put you intouch with my Dad as he got he wheels at his place and both can sort out the details.
We have a few sets of wheels and all have got tyres on them but have seen better days and will need replacing apart from on set with good tyres.
They fit straight onto a toyota picnic as my sister ran a set on her car for over a year and looked very good.

Look forward to hearing from you Wyn, your new wedge look realy nice and were glad to see you back from a Griff, another nice car too. hehe

pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Campbell, YHM. thumbup

red tasman

295 posts

229 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Hi You need "wobble nuts" (off set nuts) or the wheels machined. The hole in the centre is slightly too large but you can get collars to fit them as well (not sure what they are called). They do fit without mods but it puts strain on the wheel bolts as they carry all the weight and power.

_Absinthe_

102 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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red tasman said:
...The hole in the centre is slightly too large but you can get collars to fit them as well (not sure what they are called). They do fit without mods but it puts strain on the wheel bolts as they carry all the weight and power.
Hmm, I didn't know that. How much of a problem is this likely to be? It looks like I could well be using these wheels long term instead of the temporary arrangement I originally had in mind. Is it quite important that I get some of these collars? (or whatever they're called)

B-Reight

905 posts

232 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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red tasman said:
Hi You need "wobble nuts" (off set nuts) or the wheels machined. The hole in the centre is slightly too large but you can get collars to fit them as well (not sure what they are called). They do fit without mods but it puts strain on the wheel bolts as they carry all the weight and power.
They're called spigot rings. I thought, or rather was told (possibly incorrectly) that it was the frictional clamping force of the wheel face to the hub face that took the torsional force rather the bolts themselves und the centre bore served to centre the wheels. That could be all bks though rotate

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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B-Reight said:
I thought, or rather was told (possibly incorrectly) that it was the frictional clamping force of the wheel face to the hub face that took the torsional force rather the bolts themselves und the centre bore served to centre the wheels. That could be all bks though rotate
Yes, that's the way that wheels are held on. It is of course the tension in the bolts that provides the frictional clamping force.

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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_Absinthe_ said:
red tasman said:
...The hole in the centre is slightly too large but you can get collars to fit them as well (not sure what they are called). They do fit without mods but it puts strain on the wheel bolts as they carry all the weight and power.
Hmm, I didn't know that. How much of a problem is this likely to be? It looks like I could well be using these wheels long term instead of the temporary arrangement I originally had in mind. Is it quite important that I get some of these collars? (or whatever they're called)
Wheel nuts are expensive, comparatively because they're machined to high tolerances to give an even load on the wheel. By fitting Cerb wheels to a wedge without any adjustments you place all of the load on one small area of the nut/wheel housing and put a bending force onto the stud. Quite how long that will last depends upon your driving style, how far you go and whether there are any inherent flaws in any of the metal.

CarbonWedge

226 posts

248 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Spigot rings are important for centring the wheel on the hub, without them you will get bad vibrations at speed. I also found that front suspension springs and bushes need to be in good condition, beacuse I had rubbing to start with when turning.

tvrmturbo

18 posts

263 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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I'm JR's mate with the cerbra wheels they are toyo proxes T1-S 7.5 J16 ET35 2 x 225x45 2 x 245x45 with 5mm tread alround mfishfinger@msn.com

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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I've been running the cerbie wheels for a while but could do with some spigot rings - where can I get them? Anyone have the dimensions (I suppose inner and outer diameter, length)?

I think the wheels are reasonably centered if the quality of the machining is good and you also take care to evenly tighten the nuts before dropping it back onto the ground, I've not had much problem with vibrations so far.

Once the fronts have ground a 2" groove in the inner wheelarch then you're sorted! It doesn't get any bigger.

pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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scratchchin or shall I wait for something that will go straight on without any mods. Sounds a bit over complex.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Complex? 20 nuts off, wheels on, 20 nuts on? Tell you what I'll do it for a fiver per nut ;^)

CarbonWedge

226 posts

248 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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adam quantrill said:
I've been running the cerbie wheels for a while but could do with some spigot rings - where can I get them? Anyone have the dimensions (I suppose inner and outer diameter, length)?
I'll check mine for you when the snow goes. 3" od with a 1/4" wall thickness rings a bell cut about 7mm long. Made mine from a plastic pipe connector I found to prevent any corrosion issues. Cost me about £10, I asked a few machine shops and they wanted about £70!

pwd95

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8,459 posts

268 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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scratchchin There's plenty of wobble nuts & spigot rings on ebay, what sizes are these things?