Cancelling Flights
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melhookv12

Original Poster:

959 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Hi, can the PH massive give me some advice. Have booked a return flight, might have to cancel it. It was booked on a credit card, will I get my money back ?

TIA

parapaul

2,828 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Surely depends on the T&C's of the airline in question?

phumy

5,798 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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It all depends on the small print, as with any cancellation, only real answer in you own case is to call the booking agent/airline, or whoever you booked with and ask them.

The Fly Fisher

205 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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I agree with the previous posts, and depending on the class if travel booked you may be able to reschedule e.g. flexible business class, flexible economy, etc.

Mattt

16,664 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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You pays your money and takes your choice.

Cheap fare are cheap for a reason - not flexible.

Credit card protection is of no relevance if you want to cancel it, unless your credit card gives you travel insurance also wink

Corpulent Tosser

5,468 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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If you have not flown then you can certainly claim back the airport tax element of the fare.

Some of the budget airlines will try not to pay out but as the tax has not been paid they cannot legally keep it from you. Ideally though you will have paid by credit card and be insured as others have already said.

uuf361

3,158 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Doubt you will get all of it back, maybe the tax and might depend on the airline and their t's & c's....you won't be able to claim from the credit card for non-performance as it's you who wants to cancel not the airline.

sneijder

5,221 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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If it's a cheap ticket, no, and the change fee will be similar to the price of a new ticket.

With regards to the taxes, again if it's a cheapo ticket you will have, without realising, agreed to pay a claim fee. You won't be amazed to find the claim fee is more than the taxes.

Hugo a Gogo

23,416 posts

249 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Corpulent Tosser said:
If you have not flown then you can certainly claim back the airport tax element of the fare.

Some of the budget airlines will try not to pay out but as the tax has not been paid they cannot legally keep it from you. Ideally though you will have paid by credit card and be insured as others have already said.
ryanair charge an 'admin fee' for getting the tax back, I think it's about 25 quid (after filling in forms in triplicate signed by all 4 grandparents and faxing it to estonia between 11.01am and 11.02am on the third tuesday after the spring equinox)

Puggit

49,142 posts

264 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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As above - it depends on the class booked, along with the relevant Ts&Cs for that class. You may get some back, you may get it all back, if it was cheap - you'll get none back.

If there's a valid reason for canceling, you can always look at your travel/holiday insurance.

And the final way, you can sue someone if it's their fault you need to cancel wink

fadeaway

1,463 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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It's not so much the class of ticket, more the type.

If it's flexible you'll be able to chance without a problem. If it was discounted in anyway then probably not (not on sale, but less then the "full" fare - ie through travel agent etc..).

If you can't cancel it then you might be able to change the dates. Will prob cost you, but would be cheaper than losing the ticket completely.

Obviously if there's a medial/emergency situation then your travel insurance (personal or via credit card) might cover you.

therealpigdog

2,592 posts

213 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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If its an Atlantic carrier with red planes then be very careful. They absolutely fcensoredd me over on two first class returns to California last summer - I wanted to cancel them a month before departing (two months before coming back) and they refused, also refused to change dates or passengers. All in the T's and C's so nothing I could do, but I had hoped that they would perhaps be able to be sympathetic in the circumstances (questionable as to whether the term was an unfair penalty clause but I couldn't afford to pursue it). Net result was that I gave them several grand for a set of luggage tags. Am never flying with them again, which is a shame because normally their customer service is excellent.

theaxe

3,571 posts

238 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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therealpigdog said:
If its an Atlantic carrier with red planes then be very careful. They absolutely fcensoredd me over on two first class returns to California last summer - I wanted to cancel them a month before departing (two months before coming back) and they refused, also refused to change dates or passengers. All in the T's and C's so nothing I could do, but I had hoped that they would perhaps be able to be sympathetic in the circumstances (questionable as to whether the term was an unfair penalty clause but I couldn't afford to pursue it). Net result was that I gave them several grand for a set of luggage tags. Am never flying with them again, which is a shame because normally their customer service is excellent.
Flexible Upper Class (not a First Class Product BTW) tickets cost thousands of pounds more than the inflexible ones so I'm not surprised they knocked you back. If they were willing to be flexible on inflexible tickets then no one would buy flexible ones.

Their website is pretty clear (not that this helps if you booked via an agent):


Sure, if you had a family emergency then they could be more accomodating but then your travel insurance should have covered it.

Edited by theaxe on Thursday 14th January 13:44

therealpigdog

2,592 posts

213 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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theaxe said:
therealpigdog said:
If its an Atlantic carrier with red planes then be very careful. They absolutely fcensoredd me over on two first class returns to California last summer - I wanted to cancel them a month before departing (two months before coming back) and they refused, also refused to change dates or passengers. All in the T's and C's so nothing I could do, but I had hoped that they would perhaps be able to be sympathetic in the circumstances (questionable as to whether the term was an unfair penalty clause but I couldn't afford to pursue it). Net result was that I gave them several grand for a set of luggage tags. Am never flying with them again, which is a shame because normally their customer service is excellent.
Flexible Upper Class (not a First Class Product BTW) tickets cost thousands of pounds more than the inflexible ones so I'm not surprised they knocked you back. If they were willing to be flexible on inflexible tickets then no one would buy flexible ones.

Their website is pretty clear (not that this helps if you booked via an agent):


Sure, if you had a family emergency then they could be more accomodating but then your travel insurance should have covered it.

Edited by theaxe on Thursday 14th January 13:44
bought through an agent and then upgraded to first class over the phone - wasn't told they were non-transferrable at the time of the upgrade (ironically the original tickets were non-refundable but they seemed to manage when an upgrade was being sought. the galling thing (and what probably makes the terms unenforceable) is that they had plenty of time to resell the seats, and probably did - so they made double on those tickets.


Travel insurance wouldn't have covered it (long story) but was just disappointed with the overall attitude to be honest and that's why they've lost my custom. Given that they could resell the tickets it wouldn't have been a hardship for them to offer a credit note - especially given how they hand these out when they've overbooked flights.

Oh well, put it down to experience.

Mattt

16,664 posts

234 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Unenforceable? Unfair? Penalty?

A) Fully flexible - £X
B) Not flexible, you get what you pay for - £Y

Seems fair to me.

If it's a major carrier it probably complies with IATA regs, which comply with UTCCR.