Who's fault??

[flooritforever]

:rantmodeon:

I've just come a bit too close to being a kebab to be entirely comfortable. The incident has also left me damned annoyed, cos I now have a large dent in my car. True, it isn't much of a car, but it's mine and it was practically spotless before this, so I'm about this. What I really want to know is am I justified being angry, or was it actually my fault?

For the purpose of the explanation, I will call the lane nearest the middle of the roundabout the inside lane. This is what happened:

I was waiting to pull out onto a busy roundabout to go left, off at the first exit. A lorry was coming round in the inside lane, not indicating at all. As he is going round in the inside, I pull out into the outside lane and proceed towards the first exit. The next thing I know, the lorry is coming across in front of me, moving over to the outside lane as he heads for the first exit. The rear passenger side of his vehicle contacts with my drivers side front wheel arch. He doesn't appear to notice, and carries on driving as normal.

Unfortunately, I was too shocked, and too busy making sure I wasn't crushed to get his number plate or any details about his lorry. I pulled over as soon as I could to inspect the damage.

So, opinions please people. Am I right to be ped off? Of was it my fault for pulling out?

[trefor]

It is the lorry's right of way on the roundabout (in the UK at least). From what you describe it sounds like the classic scenario where he was not signalling and his road behaviour suggested he was not exiting. You went for it. He changed his mind. Bang.

[flooritforever]

trefor said:

From what you describe it sounds like the classic scenario where he was not signalling and his road behaviour suggested he was not exiting. You went for it. He changed his mind. Bang.

I should have said that the exit off the roundabout had two lanes as well. My problem is he changed lanes and went straight across the lane I was in when exiting, and I believe he should have gone into the second lane on the exit road, and then changed lanes.

[andrew54]

For what it's worth, I think.........

It was mainly your fault. You failed to give way. But lorry driver was partly to blame as he failed to signal.

[streaky]

1) Well, you were at fault for failing to give way.

2) That the lorry subsequently changed lanes (with ot without signalling) does not put you in the right ... you shouldn't have been there because of (1).

IMHO.

Streaky

[SGirl]

How big a lorry was it? Artics and large trucks do often have to cross lanes to get round roundabouts, and they have right of weight.

Sorry to hear about your accident. But I think you'll have to chalk this one up to experience. It's always a good idea to give lorries plenty of space on roundabouts - let them get out of your way before you make your manoeuvre. Knowing you were in the right isn't much consolation when you're dead.

[flooritforever]

SGirl said:

How big a lorry was it? Artics and large trucks do often have to cross lanes to get round roundabouts, and they have right of weight.

7.5 tonner at most. Wasn't very big. He didn't need to change lane to get off the roundabout. I wouldn't have pulled out if it had been an artic, for that very reason.

[edc]

Unfortunately, you made the mistake of presuming what the other driver was going to do.

[kevinday]

Sorry to hear about your little scrape, but as others have said, it was the lorries right of way, he may have signalled and the front indicator (or whichever) may have just blown a bulb or fuse.

Lesson here is: ALWAYS assume the other person will do the unexpected.

[Roadrage]

strickly speaking it your fault from what you said as hgvs becauseof there lenth.

he a twat for not signaling but never trust someone to go where there signalin anyway

the back end may cross over lane a on most roundabouts. you just cant stay in on lane with a hgv.

all way hold back and watch the back end of the hgvs on rouanabouts.

having said that there some shit hgv drivers about

my motors in the most expecive bodyshop in my town
today geting undented and spayed.

as his insharance are pay


after a solvinan lorry driver swiped me on the m1

that was his fault 100%

I was in the middel land and he drove the cab strait in to me from the slow lane.

whe he was changing lanes with out look if anyone all ready in the lane.



>> Edited by Roadrage on Wednesday 4th February 02:00

>> Edited by Roadrage on Wednesday 4th February 02:05

[anonymous-user]

Roadrage said:

my motors in the most expecive bodyshop in my town today geting undented and spayed. as his insharance are pay after a solvinan lorry driver swiped me on the m1 that was his fault 100% I was in the middel land and he drove the cab strait in to me from the slow lane. whe he was changing lanes with out look if anyone all ready in the lane.

Tiff and Vicki did a spot on this last year on Fifth Gear. Apparently it's becoming more and more common as even UK wagon drivers are buying left hookers now as they do so much driving on the continent.

As for the insurance paying out, you're bloody lucky! The fiance of one of my mates was cut up by a wagon on a roundabout (both of them on the roundabout, lorry in "outside" lane to go straight on, cuts round and takes front of Civic Type-R). The wagon turned out to be from the Czech Republic and my mates insurance company and BiB have both said the chances of getting any money from them is minimal.

[MEMSDesign]

Highway code says

"In all cases watch out for and give plenty of room to :" ...
"long vehicles (including those towing trailers) which might have to take a different course approaching or on the roundabout because of their length. Watch out for their signals."

[Roadrage]

LexSport said:

Roadrage said: my motors in the most expecive bodyshop in my town today geting undented and spayed. as his insharance are pay after a solvinan lorry driver swiped me on the m1 that was his fault 100% I was in the middel land and he drove the cab strait in to me from the slow lane. whe he was changing lanes with out look if anyone all ready in the lane. Tiff and Vicki did a spot on this last year on Fifth Gear. Apparently it's becoming more and more common as even UK wagon drivers are buying left hookers now as they do so much driving on the continent. As for the insurance paying out, you're bloody lucky! The fiance of one of my mates was cut up by a wagon on a roundabout (both of them on the roundabout, lorry in "outside" lane to go straight on, cuts round and takes front of Civic Type-R). The wagon turned out to be from the Czech Republic and my mates insurance company and BiB have both said the chances of getting any money from them is minimal.

well I dont have full comp and want going to wait a year for the legal cover to get the cash


so went to a company called help hire www.helphire.co.uk/

if it a no fault claim there do it all for you and sort
out all the calim with the insharance

and sort you a desent hire car while you is get repaired.

you pany nothing other than a 10 quid insharace polisy to cover you if they do recover the cash off the twat that hit you.

ie no win no fee.

there bloody got got it sorted in a few days for me.

>> Edited by Roadrage on Wednesday 4th February 11:26