Wording in job vacancy advert
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Now, I don't want to come across as discriminatory in any way here, but I've just noticed an advert for a job vacancy where I work, and there is a line at the bottom saying:
"We would particularly welcome applications from ethnic minority groups and people with disabilities who are under represented in the University".
Are employers allowed to put this down? Surely this is effectively saying that they will give people with disabilities or those from an ethnic minority an advantage over anybody else applying?
I understand that in the past there have been situations where people have not been employed because, say, they are in a wheelchair. Yet they could have done the job just as well as an able bodied person. However, does this line in the advert now mean that able bodied people would be turned down in favour of someone with a disability? Essentially turning the problem around the other way?
"We would particularly welcome applications from ethnic minority groups and people with disabilities who are under represented in the University".
Are employers allowed to put this down? Surely this is effectively saying that they will give people with disabilities or those from an ethnic minority an advantage over anybody else applying?
I understand that in the past there have been situations where people have not been employed because, say, they are in a wheelchair. Yet they could have done the job just as well as an able bodied person. However, does this line in the advert now mean that able bodied people would be turned down in favour of someone with a disability? Essentially turning the problem around the other way?
What job is it for? If they're looking for a Spokesperson for the Ethnic Minority Disability organisation, it may well be justified 
I don't think there's an issue as long as the advert doesn't say "people from a certain background will not be considered"; all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
I don't think there's an issue as long as the advert doesn't say "people from a certain background will not be considered"; all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
It is called positive discrimination, the company I worked for had discussion previously over having targets to actually achieve in terms of recruitment for minority groups, which I don’t agree with, but they should have policies in place to actively encourage application from minority groups, ergo tackling discrimination. That sentence will be an example of this. The police force recruitment has a similar sentence and is perfectly legal
boomboompow said:
I don't think there's an issue as long as the advert doesn't say "people from a certain background will not be considered"; all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
I wouldn't apply for a £150k pa job in a bank, are they going to encourage me to apply?You Sir, are talking tripe!
boomboompow said:
What job is it for? If they're looking for a Spokesperson for the Ethnic Minority Disability organisation, it may well be justified
I don't think there's an issue as long as the advert doesn't say "people from a certain background will not be considered"; all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
It's for a Library Assistant (not for myself, having a look at things for the other half).I don't think there's an issue as long as the advert doesn't say "people from a certain background will not be considered"; all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
That's the thing though, I don't read it as encouraging people that wouldn't normally apply, I read it as "We would rather have this sort of person applying".
Perhaps it's my interpretation.
All this meeting quotas of spackers and darkies is ridiculous if you ask me ... *
The best person for the job should be given the job. If someone is deemed to have given the job to a person of a certain ethinic background or with a disability over someone more suitable then they should be reprimanded not praised. f
king PC bollards ...
This is a joke, before you get your turbans and collostamy bags in a twist
The best person for the job should be given the job. If someone is deemed to have given the job to a person of a certain ethinic background or with a disability over someone more suitable then they should be reprimanded not praised. f
king PC bollards ...This is a joke, before you get your turbans and collostamy bags in a twist
bonsai said:
boomboompow said:
all that advert is doing is encouraging people from a cetain group who may not normally apply for the job, to apply.
Well unless the advertisement was for grand wizard of the KKK or similar then they shouln't need extra special encouraging.
This always annoys me... An organisation that looks at their workforce and thinks 'We are under-represented by a particular ethnic group - therefore we need to encourage people of that ethnic group to apply for positions here.'
Surely a company should always be looking to find the best candidate, regardless of their ethnicity. A person that meets all the criteria for the job and can demonstrate the appropriate skills/diligence required.
I work for a company with around 15,000 employees worldwide and the workforce is extremely diverse, which is great, but in a smaller organisation - particularly one set in a more rural location away from well populated areas it may not be possible to find potential applicants from different ethnic backgrounds.
Surely a company should always be looking to find the best candidate, regardless of their ethnicity. A person that meets all the criteria for the job and can demonstrate the appropriate skills/diligence required.
I work for a company with around 15,000 employees worldwide and the workforce is extremely diverse, which is great, but in a smaller organisation - particularly one set in a more rural location away from well populated areas it may not be possible to find potential applicants from different ethnic backgrounds.
Given todays speech - it seems Male White may be the minority class you're looking for.
Ethnic minorities 'no longer always disadvantaged'
Ethnic minorities 'no longer always disadvantaged'
Universities are government funded - there are targets to meet to help massage official statistics. Common sense has nothing to do with the way they are run.
(Me ? Bitter ? Just resigned from one in frustration at the stupid way they prevented me doing my job ? Guess...go on - guess.)
(Me ? Bitter ? Just resigned from one in frustration at the stupid way they prevented me doing my job ? Guess...go on - guess.)
Matt Evans said:
Now, I don't want to come across as discriminatory in any way here, but I've just noticed an advert for a job vacancy where I work, and there is a line at the bottom saying:
"We would particularly welcome applications from ethnic minority groups and people with disabilities who are under represented in the University".
Are employers allowed to put this down? Surely this is effectively saying that they will give people with disabilities or those from an ethnic minority an advantage over anybody else applying?
I understand that in the past there have been situations where people have not been employed because, say, they are in a wheelchair. Yet they could have done the job just as well as an able bodied person. However, does this line in the advert now mean that able bodied people would be turned down in favour of someone with a disability? Essentially turning the problem around the other way?
Bloody hell, I was going to start a thread on exactly the same topic - I thought better of it due to the likelihood of it getting locked. My wife was looking at an NHS vacancy this morning which had virtually the same wording."We would particularly welcome applications from ethnic minority groups and people with disabilities who are under represented in the University".
Are employers allowed to put this down? Surely this is effectively saying that they will give people with disabilities or those from an ethnic minority an advantage over anybody else applying?
I understand that in the past there have been situations where people have not been employed because, say, they are in a wheelchair. Yet they could have done the job just as well as an able bodied person. However, does this line in the advert now mean that able bodied people would be turned down in favour of someone with a disability? Essentially turning the problem around the other way?
I have to say it boiled my piss. Everyone should be given a fair crack of the whip.
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