Why are we so keen to speak like Americans?
Why are we so keen to speak like Americans?
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blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

262 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I am always amazed at how readily English people want to forsake thier language to speak like Americans.
Every year people start using new trendy American words for reasons I cannot comprehend.
Recently 'movie' has almost overtaken 'film' to describe a film and everyone seems to find it clever to call one another 'retard' or even more baffling abbreviating it to 'tard, or even more extra-ordinary prefixing this abbreviation with a different word eg fktard, wktard, tttard.

WHy do people do this? I can't comprehend it. It doesnt make any sense to me at all.
If you want to speak a different language then go and learn a usefull one like French or Spanish.
The end.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

272 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I am consistently astonished at the utter pointlessness of your ego driven ranting.


blindswelledrat

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262 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
I am consistently astonished at the utter pointlessness of your ego driven ranting.
I am consistently astonished at the fact that the second you become a moderator you follow me around like a school prefect critisising everything I write.

Hugo a Gogo

23,437 posts

263 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
If you want to speak a different language then go and learn a usefull one like French or Spanish.
The end.
you were going well until you got to this point

then you, like, totally blew it, dude

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

272 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
I am consistently astonished at the fact that the second you become a moderator you follow me around like a school prefect critisising everything I write.
Yes, yes, you're quite correct. I do that. It's a passion.


You're a bloody loony.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

tanqueray

12 posts

202 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I think its because lonely people spend too long on the internet and start thinking its normal to type like an american.

Anyone who doesn't agree with the op is basically saying they're a colossal great baby.

Doobs

736 posts

280 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Well it's not that surprising really. Regions have accents because people talk in the way they are spoken to (you wouldn't choose to sound like a Brummy, people end up talking like that because that's how everyone around them speaks). Now since America is the biggest producer of films, and we also take a lot of their TV onto our networks, it is not surprising at all that we pick up some of their language. American media is very popular here - mystery solved.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Why do so many continental europeans have such good English (even if their business doesn't demand using English). Because of TV and films.

Exactly the same here in England. We are exposed to so much American tv, be it series (Simpsons, Friends, 24, CSI, Will and GRace etc. etc) or films. I'd guess that 90% of what I watch on a screen is American made. Not intentionally (far from it, in fact) but just the way these things happen.

As such, it's hardly surprising that our language is becoming influenced by it.

lazyitus

19,931 posts

296 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Stop moaning, FFS.

Do you preach in Bridgend at weekends by any chance ?

blindswelledrat

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262 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
blindswelledrat said:
I am consistently astonished at the fact that the second you become a moderator you follow me around like a school prefect critisising everything I write.
Yes, yes, you're quite correct. I do that. It's a passion.


You're a bloody loony.
Of course, Im the loony.
In 7 years on this site you have never made a single negative comment in my direction and yet suddenly someone hands you a moderator badge and every time I post you rush on like a baby that has st itself crying about how much my posts are hurting you.

blindswelledrat

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Friday 15th January 2010
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marshalla said:
Oh man, I hadn't noticed that.
JAYB must be furious. Not one but two anti-americanism threads in a week.

blindswelledrat

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Friday 15th January 2010
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Doobs said:
Well it's not that surprising really. Regions have accents because people talk in the way they are spoken to (you wouldn't choose to sound like a Brummy, people end up talking like that because that's how everyone around them speaks). Now since America is the biggest producer of films, and we also take a lot of their TV onto our networks, it is not surprising at all that we pick up some of their language. American media is very popular here - mystery solved.
Logical to a point but it is only 'trendy' words that seem to infiltrate (movies is not a great example). We don't run around saying "hood" and "kindergarten" which have been around for years. I don't know what this means exactly, but it annoys me nevertheless

Stu R

21,658 posts

245 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Trying to get the thread back on topic, it is a strange trend which I suppose highlights how dynamic and fluid language is. It's not a new trend however. The very nature of language means we'll always be adding to it, rather than removing from it - save for a few archaic words which are deemed obsolete every year. Traditionally we've always borrowed words from other languages (as have most if not all cultures to varying extents), and as time goes by the spellings, pronunciation and meanings have sometimes changed.

What's happening now is no different to what's been happening since language became language. I'm sure all those years ago when Latin or Greek was starting to gain widespread popularity it had it's opposition from those who believed it compromised the soverignty of their native tongue, yet it's common parlance now. To me, it's just history repeating itself, and a natural process.

I can't say it's something that bothers me greatly, though I do hate some facets of language where the rules seem to be torn up and thrown away. I'd rather here someone say dude, than blud, for example.

As rightly pointed out, in the media age the USA is bringing more to the world stage than everyone else. It's inevitable some of their lingo is going to be adopted. Dynamic language is the bomb. wink

Edited by Stu R on Friday 15th January 10:53

evenflow

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312 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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TonyHetherington said:
We are exposed to so much American tv, be it series (Simpsons, Friends, 24, CSI, Will and GRace etc. etc)
Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't for the life of me think of any American TV series.








wink

adam85

1,264 posts

221 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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The Handbags are prevalent in this one!

5pen

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236 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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evenflow said:
TonyHetherington said:
We are exposed to so much American tv, be it series (Simpsons, Friends, 24, CSI, Will and GRace etc. etc)
Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't for the life of me think of any American TV series.


wink
Surely, you mean seasons?! wink

blindswelledrat

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Friday 15th January 2010
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evenflow said:
TonyHetherington said:
We are exposed to so much American tv, be it series (Simpsons, Friends, 24, CSI, Will and GRace etc. etc)
Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't for the life of me think of any American TV series

wink
hehe

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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America is extremely dominant as a force in modern popular culture and this reflects itself in many different areas. As a country of 60 million we stand as a similar but different culture against the might of the USA for example. The USA has over 300 million as a population and hence can generate more popular culture stuff than we can - and in many cases its vastly more popular too!

So yes, its an inevitable aspect of modern pop culture - we will get influenced by America and everything that it is. That said though, if there wasn't a market for it we wouldn't have it here. We consume it because its what people want - sorry but its very much the case. Its been a few years since we had an Empire and dictated to the world.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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It's the radio adverts that get on my nerves, lately it seems like most adverts are spoken in a corny American accent.