free energy - proffessor john searl
free energy - proffessor john searl
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Mclovin

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1,679 posts

228 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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imagine if such tech could be replicated, governments would lose billions lol ....

http://www.searlsolution.com/index.html

thailand will become the first international country to start the development and manufacturing of the Searl Effect Technology...

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Looks like some sort of magnetic perpetual motion gizmo hehe

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Nuclear energy is pretty much free. This magnet stuff is just nonsense.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Guam said:
AndrewW-G said:
Looks like some sort of magnetic perpetual motion gizmo hehe
May be me but I cant help but be extremely skeptical about these magic free energy solutions whenever they appear (coldwater fusion anyone)?
Not helped in the prof's case by the early 90's look web site!

Mclovin

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1,679 posts

228 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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i want it to be true so badly to piss of the stupid government and its stupid policy of taxing us on energy because the use of it is detrimental to made up global warming rubbish....i would love to hear their reasons for taxing us if energy was clean and abundant...

G_T

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Very skeptical.

Also;

"The SEG is a device precisely constructed to these principles, enabling it to produce a stable and useful power output at the rate of approximately 200 watts per kilogram of the generator’s mass for the smallest unit."

Can't do the math myself but give the UKs consumption is 3.28700 × 10^14 watts per Annum.

That would suggest even if the efficiency was doubled in larger units it would still be a very large waste of time given the engineering and maintenance.

Certainly seems unlikely that the technology would save the world as the website suggests.


Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

224 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Does that mean Sweden's Bunny Biomass Generator is not being considered anymore then?


Mario149

7,789 posts

208 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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mrmr96 said:
Nuclear energy is pretty much free. This magnet stuff is just nonsense.
I'm convinced that fusion, cold or not, will eventually be a viable source of energy. Unfortunately, at the rate things are going, it probably won't be in my lifetime. I would love to see the effect it would have on the human race. Clean, cheap energy for everyone? Awesome. Although no doubt we'd have to find other things to have wars over frown

erdnase

1,963 posts

231 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Interesting..

said:
"The SEG is an 'open system' of energy conversion that is in accordance known thermodynamic laws;"
Good so far.. However..

said:
"The Searl Effect is based on magnetic waveforms that generates a continual motion of magnetized rollers around magnetized rings. Energy conversion while operating involves processing of random quantum fluctuations and kinetic energy within the atomic lattice into coherent currents of electron pairs formed between two-dimensional boundaries of different type materials."
..sets off my quack alarms.





G_T

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Mario149 said:
mrmr96 said:
Nuclear energy is pretty much free. This magnet stuff is just nonsense.
I'm convinced that fusion, cold or not, will eventually be a viable source of energy. Unfortunately, at the rate things are going, it probably won't be in my lifetime. I would love to see the effect it would have on the human race. Clean, cheap energy for everyone? Awesome. Although no doubt we'd have to find other things to have wars over frown
Do you not reckon fusion will remain a pipedream?

It's been a long time since my physics days but it seems unlikely that it'll ever be achieved. It could just be a fundamental fact that the mass of the reactor has to equal to a star. At least that's the impression I got from Spiderman 2.

More than that we've got a fusion reacter a mere 8 light minutes away. Surely there must be a way of using that one beyond wk solar panels?


peterperkins

3,444 posts

272 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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laugh When did he become a Prof? What is he a Prof of?

Looks like total cobblers to me. rolleyes

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

206 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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He sounds like he needs to brush up on his definitions of "open and closed" system.

Is there a parallel universe losing energy somewhere?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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G_T said:
Do you not reckon fusion will remain a pipedream?

It's been a long time since my physics days but it seems unlikely that it'll ever be achieved.
It's achieved regularly. It's sustaining the reaction and getting back more energy than you have to put in that's causing a few engineering headaches.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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mrmr96 said:
Nuclear energy is pretty much free. This magnet stuff is just nonsense.
You might want to tell the Fins that - they at about £6bn into a probably £8-10bn spend on 1 new next gen NPP.

V88Dicky

7,372 posts

213 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Can't help thinking of;


or,


and of course;



rolleyes

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Einion Yrth said:
G_T said:
Do you not reckon fusion will remain a pipedream?

It's been a long time since my physics days but it seems unlikely that it'll ever be achieved.
It's achieved regularly. It's sustaining the reaction and getting back more energy than you have to put in that's causing a few engineering headaches.
It is anticipated that the Korean Daejeon reactor will be the first to hit the 1:1 ratio of energy in/energy out. My guess is 20-30 years before proof of concept for viable energy source. It's anybody's guess for commercialisation.

dilbert

7,741 posts

261 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I just love the way they're all wearing the little embroidered badge on their white coats!
rofl

G_T

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Einion Yrth said:
G_T said:
Do you not reckon fusion will remain a pipedream?

It's been a long time since my physics days but it seems unlikely that it'll ever be achieved.
It's achieved regularly. It's sustaining the reaction and getting back more energy than you have to put in that's causing a few engineering headaches.
I'm aware of that.

It's more the commercial applications that I believe will remain a pipedream.


ShadownINja

80,072 posts

312 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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G_T said:
watts per Annum
No such thing.

(I'll let people on here get away with mis-spelling and typos, but not made up units.)