Otters - swap your mole for one
Otters - swap your mole for one
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KevF

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1,994 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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My Dad has around 30 Koi that he has collected over the last 10 years. Some are now quite large and expensive.
Fortunately, there is a small stream running along the bottom of the garden and also a large man made pond. Further up the garden and right near the house is the Koi pond.
Unfortunately, a bloody otter has dcided he likes the Koi better then the regular goldfish in the pond.

So far he has taken 5 Koi valued at around £28k. Dad has found various Koi parts left behind. The snow has helped as the otter has left tracks back down to the stream.

Not sure what to do though...there is a electric wire fence now around the Koi pond but this hasnt stopped the bugger. We dont want to (and legally cant) harm him and all that is left is a cage trap and then, once caught, release him elsewhere (God knows where).
Now, I remember Terry Nutkins from off of the wildlife TV programmes had one of his fingers bitten off by an otter, so the whole carrying the cage bit is worrying. Looking at the size of the paw prints and size of the fish he has taken, the otter is the size of a small/medium dog..

Anyone dealt with otters before? Anyone recommend someone to help. RSPCA dont want to know...

Jam Spavlin

909 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Put chicken wire over the top of the koi pond? Make a solid fence round the pond with a gate for you to get in?

Don

28,378 posts

302 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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KevF said:
So far he has taken 5 Koi valued at around £28k.
Sell the Koi. With the resulting funds buy sports cars.

In order to keep the otter out you would need to carry out a programme of fortification that will utterly nullify any benefit in keeping a pond populated with beautiful fish.

Are you sure it's an otter? Not a mink?

Trap and release probably means he'll be back or something else will fill the vacuum...

Halb

53,012 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Don said:
KevF said:
So far he has taken 5 Koi valued at around £28k.
Sell the Koi. With the resulting funds buy sports cars.


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Great idea!

pokethepope

2,665 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Get a medium/large size dog? A fisherd dog, if you will.

Edited by pokethepope on Tuesday 19th January 10:40

Simpo Two

89,713 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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I make that £168K's worth of fish!

I know hobbies don't observe logic but that seems an awful lot of money to have floating about in a pond.

clarkmagpie

3,631 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Eat the Koi yourself?
That would teach the pesky otter, it would then have to go for the goldfish instead.


juice

9,405 posts

300 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Replace Koi with Piranha.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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pokethepope said:
Get a medium/large size dog? A fisherd dog, if you will.

Edited by pokethepope on Tuesday 19th January 10:40
An Otterhound is what you need. These were bred to hunt Otters.

Bill

56,272 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Don said:
KevF said:
So far he has taken 5 Koi valued at around £28k.
Sell the Koi. With the resulting funds buy sports cars.

In order to keep the otter out you would need to carry out a programme of fortification that will utterly nullify any benefit in keeping a pond populated with beautiful fish.

Are you sure it's an otter? Not a mink?

Trap and release probably means he'll be back or something else will fill the vacuum...
yesAren't otters pretty rare? I'd be pretty chuffed if I had an otter living in the garden (Admittedly less so if it was eating fish that made caviar look like a bargain.)

Smiler.

11,752 posts

248 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Oh stop carping on hehe



Bill said:
Don said:
KevF said:
So far he has taken 5 Koi valued at around £28k.
Sell the Koi. With the resulting funds buy sports cars.

In order to keep the otter out you would need to carry out a programme of fortification that will utterly nullify any benefit in keeping a pond populated with beautiful fish.

Are you sure it's an otter? Not a mink?

Trap and release probably means he'll be back or something else will fill the vacuum...
yesAren't otters pretty rare? I'd be pretty chuffed if I had an otter living in the garden (Admittedly less so if it was eating fish that made caviar look like a bargain.)
yes I've never seen one in the wild.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Otters can be right pain in the arse - one of the lakes I used to fish had it's stock of large carp (35lb+ fish) utterly decimated by a couple of otters that got settled in the adjascent river.

The guy who owned the lakes was utterly distraught - some of the fish were over 40 years old and it destroyed a family business in months The otters didn't even eat all of the fish - couple of bites and left the carcass to rot on the bankside.

I don't think that there is anything that you can do about it to be honest - they are a very protected species.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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If you do manage to trap the otter, can you check its pockets for me please. I've always wondered just how wet an otters pocket is.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

248 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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rhinochopig said:
If you do manage to trap the otter, can you check its pockets for me please. I've always wondered just how wet an otters pocket is.
'Ave it!

rofl

KevF

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1,994 posts

216 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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rhinochopig said:
If you do manage to trap the otter, can you check its pockets for me please. I've always wondered just how wet an otters pocket is.
hehe guess thats the thread finshed now then hehe touche

Two Stallions

1,329 posts

194 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Really sorry to hear about your otter problems. I feel as if it may be me who has contributed to their population, as I've just been to the works toilet and "released another otter out into the wild"!

getmecoat

Targarama

14,690 posts

301 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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When I was a teen one of our Siamese cats took a liking to a neighbour's koi, munched a few, they came round and complaied etc. One day he came back totally drenched, apparently they saw him fall in while fishing (they probably shouted at him and made him jump/slip). He didn't go back again. I doubt this would stop the otter though...

How about the Jasper Carrot mole solution?

Kays vRS

1,989 posts

194 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Sorry to hear about the fish.
As said, otters are a protected species and anyone dealing with otters needs to be under a licence, issued by Natural England / Scottish Natural Heritage (wherever you happen to be). Your best bet would be to put up exclusion fencing so they can't get to the pond but you're best off contacting the aforemetioned (protected species dept) for advice first before you do anything. Good luck smile

Simpo Two

89,713 posts

283 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Targarama said:
When I was a teen one of our Siamese cats took a liking to a neighbour's koi, munched a few, they came round and complaied etc. One day he came back totally drenched, apparently they threw a bucket of water over him
EFA

andy43

11,906 posts

272 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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KevF said:
Looking at the size of the paw prints and size of the fish he has taken, the otter is the size of a small/medium dog..
Are you sure it's an otter?