Its a Generation Thing...
Its a Generation Thing...
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st_files

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5,443 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Yesterday I was at had lunch with a group of friends and their parents. One of the older guys (early 70's) made a comment about foreign doctors in the UK (think Daily Mail) and used the word 'Junglebxxxxxs' to describe some of them. It went uncommented on at the time despite an awkward pause and the younger folk then discussed it afterwards. The consensus seemed to be that the 'older generation' dont seem to understand the gravity of words like that.

I found it offensive and despite knowing that this guy isnt a racist person (ie he does not discriminate through his actions) he just does not think about how words like that can be perceived by a lot of people. Am I being too charitable about him?

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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You should pillory him immediately.
Black and asian folk have never ever been known to refer to white folk in any derogatory term whatsoever.

Hang him.

ratbane

1,395 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Yes. Kill the Honki*.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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st_files said:
'Junglebxxxxxs'
is there any real need to censor the term jungle bunny?

eta - in my mind racism will never be stamped out, it just won't be as openly displayed as it once was

Edited by sleep envy on Tuesday 19th January 13:07

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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sleep envy said:
st_files said:
'Junglebxxxxxs'
is there any real need to censor the term jungle bunny?
I have no idea, I just thought I should....

marsred

1,042 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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st_files said:
sleep envy said:
st_files said:
'Junglebxxxxxs'
is there any real need to censor the term jungle bunny?
I have no idea, I just thought I should....
In order to add gravity?
Which wasn't really apparent until you censored it with X's. wink

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Stop being offended by proxy for other people.

It's that sort of attitude that makes councils rename christmas, winterval.

Even though no one who they thought were offended by it was actually offended.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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st_files said:
I found it offensive and despite knowing that this guy isn't a racist person (ie he does not discriminate through his actions) he just does not think about how words like that can be perceived by a lot of people. Am I being too charitable about him?
I personally don't think you are being too kind, nor too harsh on him.

Look at the slum 'problem' in India. You are never going to solve the collective problem of millions of people like that in a few years, you are talking generations.

Racism, and fight to eradicate it, is something that has only really been successful on a majority scale in the last 30-40 years. There will be people who have spent 30 years+ using that term of reference, without regard to its derogatory nature, who will only stop using it, intentionally or unintentionally once they have breathed their last.

Finally remember that a man should be judged on his actions, not his rhetoric.


crofty1984

17,064 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Reginald D Hunter said:
I mean, Jungle bunny? I ain't offended, because when you think about it, it's actually kinda cute!

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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I had to explain to my old (80s) Mum that the phrase " in the woodpile" isn't something you'd say anymore...

Biker's Nemesis

41,428 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Love thy neighbour, old 70's sitcom.

Google that.

G_T

16,163 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Love thy neighbour, old 70's sitcom.

Google that.
People used to use the n-word in the 70's too and I saw that on television.

Does that mean it won't offend people?

Edited by G_T on Tuesday 19th January 13:41

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Love thy neighbour, old 70's sitcom.

Google that.
The point about "Love thy Neighbour" was that both the husbands, the black bloke and the white bloke were both as racist as each other.
It poked fun at racism and made them both look like stupid bigots.

But of course, the apologists choose not to remember that, they choose to remember that someone said something racist to a black person.

That programme probably did more to highlight the stupidity of bigots than any other.

Simpo Two

92,858 posts

295 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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It is alarming how easily the under-30's think that anything that refers to skin colour is 'racism'. Look it up.

Everybody who voted for Obama 'because he's black' is truly a racist - but that's OK and 'jungle bunny' isn't?

The more that society tries to cover up race, the more obvious it becomes, like Victorians not mentioning sex. Well now it's cool to say fk and but people are oh-so-shocked at and coon. Both are only slang descriptions for something.

DrTre

12,957 posts

262 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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sleep envy said:
st_files said:
'Junglebxxxxxs'
is there any real need to censor the term jungle bunny?
I've never really understood this insult. Are black people known for eating a lot of carrots or something?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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I work with lots of people in their 70's and 80's. These are nice, decent people...retired Dr's, Head Teachers, Bank Managers and all live in nice parts of the world.

Sayings such as " in the woodpile" are common place though and when they speak about black/Asian people they (while not overtly racists) do so in a way that can only come from someone who lived through an era where we (white brits) ruled over most of them!

20 years time it will be very different but right now there are still a lot of people with ingrained attitudes that are so deep they have no idea they are "wrong"....and plenty of these guys are still working in upper management/boards, etc.

sday12

5,067 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Nothing worse than a bit of casual racism, implies you are in agreement with him.


Piss in his whiskey.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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Don said:
I had to explain to my old (80s) Mum that the phrase " in the woodpile" isn't something you'd say anymore...
Black person of African origin in the woodpile; doesn't slip off the tongue so easily.

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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My Father used Black Chappie if describing a negro.
Initially that was ok, then "Black" wasn't ok.
Then Black was the word that Negros wanted to be called.
Now (in the States) it's African American.

Choose a word ....stick with it.
I can't afford to buy a new dictionary each year.

Doofus

34,436 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th January 2010
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st_files said:
sleep envy said:
st_files said:
'Junglebxxxxxs'
is there any real need to censor the term jungle bunny?
I have no idea, I just thought I should....
I thought you were writing Jungleb0ll0cks

EDIT: Effing swear filter!

Edited by Doofus on Tuesday 19th January 14:19